North Melbourne Units

Is anybody on here particularly knowledgeable on units on North Melbourne? I've always had my eye on the area & interested but have been scared off by the "quest" & "investment only" options out there along with the large amount of a rental properties available at any one time. Are there good & bad areas within the suburb? Anything a beginner would need to watch out for? How is the rental demand in the area?

Again, please go easy as I'm only new to the scene :)
Thanks,

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Adam,

In North Melbourne stay away from the areas near the housing commission (for obvious reasons). The best areas of North Melbourne are those near Errol Street and near the hospital/university. Like its neighbours Carlton and Parkville, North Melbourne has a lot of renters who are predominantly students and hospital workers. Being close to the university and hospitals are therefore important for strong rental and capital growth. Out of the properties you have listed, I would prefer the Blackwood property for this very reason.
 
Rental returns based on the Chapman St example are a bit average though....

$370 p/week based on $465k purchase price.
 
I am a property investor faithful with a long term view (as you need to have) but I would be hesitant to buy an apartment in Melburne CBD, Docklands, Southbank or even North Melbourne for a sometime. IMHO I reckon you are going to see great opportunities in 2 years time.

http://theage.domain.com.au/real-estate-news/super-plan-for-former-age-site-20120130-1qpyf.html

http://news.domain.com.au/domain/north-melbourne-may-become-another-docklands-20120207-1r2xq.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-centres-go-boom/story-fn9656lz-1226271834726
 
Oh my goodness, there are not many roads out of that MacAulay area (from memory) and by the time the train gets to Newmarket and Kensington train stops, you cannot even get on.
 
“Better someone living in a high-density accommodation in the CBD area than forcing thousands upon thousands of people to live on the urban fringe when they do have to drive to the centre of the city” says MacLeod.
 
The problem is that the centre of Melbourne is not the CBD.....

It is actually around Clayton in the SE suburbs, to which I say why not build up a second CBD around Dandenong area - similar to the Western CBD in Sydney - Parramatta, etc?

So I can't really see the benefit of increasing housing in the CBD when most people are choosing for work reasons not to be there in the first place?
 
Is anybody on here particularly knowledgeable on units on North Melbourne? I've always had my eye on the area & interested but have been scared off by the "quest" & "investment only" options out there along with the large amount of a rental properties available at any one time. Are there good & bad areas within the suburb? Anything a beginner would need to watch out for? How is the rental demand in the area?

Again, please go easy as I'm only new to the scene :)
Thanks,

http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/Apartment-Unit-Flat/VIC/North-Melbourne/?adid=2009486630

http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/Apartment-Unit-Flat/VIC/North-Melbourne/?adid=2009341558

http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/Apartment-Unit-Flat/VIC/North-Melbourne/?adid=2009449176

I'll know about rental demand in North Melb shortly (ours close to Vic Market, 1br) - just had a tenant leave and have spent the weekend sprucing up (will get new carpets in this week hopefully).

The Y-man
 
The problem is that the centre of Melbourne is not the CBD.....

It is actually around Clayton in the SE suburbs, to which I say why not build up a second CBD around Dandenong area - similar to the Western CBD in Sydney - Parramatta, etc?

So I can't really see the benefit of increasing housing in the CBD when most people are choosing for work reasons not to be there in the first place?

I have always said a second international airport in Pakenham would be great.

It will save having to pay $200 taxi bills for some of my staff to get to Tulla (God knows how much the cab fare to Avalon would be!)

The Y-man
 
The problem is that the centre of Melbourne is not the CBD.....

It is actually around Clayton in the SE suburbs, to which I say why not build up a second CBD around Dandenong area - similar to the Western CBD in Sydney - Parramatta, etc?

So I can't really see the benefit of increasing housing in the CBD when most people are choosing for work reasons not to be there in the first place?

dandenong - with doveton (the no.1 foreclosure suburb in melbourne?)
 
I am a property investor faithful with a long term view (as you need to have) but I would be hesitant to buy an apartment in Melburne CBD, Docklands, Southbank or even North Melbourne for a sometime. IMHO I reckon you are going to see great opportunities in 2 years time.

http://theage.domain.com.au/real-estate-news/super-plan-for-former-age-site-20120130-1qpyf.html

http://news.domain.com.au/domain/north-melbourne-may-become-another-docklands-20120207-1r2xq.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...-centres-go-boom/story-fn9656lz-1226271834726

I have held residential property investments in Nth Melb since 2001 and have read of the proposed developments in the area with interest.

North Melbourne (and surrounds) have been targeted by developers in recent times as the larger Hospitals (Royal Women's, Royal Melbourne and Royal Children's) are now all in the area. Francis Perry has fairly recently moved from Carlton to the North Melbourne precinct as well.

I think much of Melbourne has been targeted by developers and this, compounded by the government's back flip on migration numbers and ruling on student visas requiring them to return to their home countries after they have finished studying, as well as the high AUD has led to less rental demand for inner city areas than in previous years.

Still, if you can take a long term view in which our population is expected to increase, holding property 2kms from the city center isn't a bad thing!

I'm planning to hold onto mine as I have experienced significant capital growth, but am not actively looking to buy any more in this area.

If you are going to buy in the area and you can afford it, purchase a terrace house as the land value is significant and the type of property is limited in supply. This should result in rental demand and capital growth over the long term.

Failing that, I'd buy an older style two bedroom flat with a balcony and an undercover car park in a small block. Avoid the ground floor - these are harder to rent out. Be aware that many of the older style apartment blocks in North Melbourne do not have individual water meters, meaning that you cannot pass the cost of water onto your tenant. This problem can be overcome by increasing the rent slightly to cover water costs.

The blocks of flats around O'Shanassy Street are popular with tenants. Anywhere near Errol Street is good as well (eg Leveson Street), although I'd try to buy a terrace rather than a modern apartment in these areas.

Hotham Hill has been a popular residential area filled with terrace homes, and blocks of flats. Interestingly, I have watched properties in this area sit vacant for ages as tenants seem to prefer to be closer to properties near Errol street and the tram line which runs down Abbotsford Street. (Don't buy directly on Abbotsford Street though). I'd avoid any where near the large Commission flats (down the Western side of Hotham Hill).

All the best with your investing.

Regards Jason.
 
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The bit behind Dryburgh St is too expensive at the moment in my opinion and actually a bit detached from where a lot of the activity/redevelopment is happenning. The area around Courtney St is still priced a bit better.

Agreed regarding corner O'Shannesey and Curzon if you want to play flats. Personally I don't like body corps but that's just me - flat body corps are cheap any way. Be a few hundred dollars every quarter.
 
owners corp and body corps -are sometimes the worst. these 6 months alone got to arguements with them over very trivial issues.

a building manager coming out to call me a liar (imagine that) and a cleaner refusing to clean the passageway coming into my apartment.

unfortunately for them - a complaint and an email was all i needed as these guys really think everyone is crim and out to break the rules.
 
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