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[dan c]

Hi typo4567

Is your point that there is only 1 of these people still at the ABC?

No his point was the poster above said he couldn't remember any ABC journos running for parliament for the Liberal / National Party.

The perception of conservatives is the ABC is full of pinko socialists. The reality, as shown above, is quite different.

 

[turk]

No his point was the poster above said he couldn't remember any ABC journos running for parliament for the Liberal / National Party.

The perception of conservatives is the ABC is full of pinko socialists. The reality, as shown above, is quite different.

Hi dan c

All the reality shown above is that the names listed have all left bar 1.

 

[dan c]

Hi dan c

All the reality shown above is that the names listed have all left bar 1.

Same with Maxine McKew, same with Mary Delahunty. The question raised was about ABC people LEAVING to run for office.

 

[turk]

Same with Maxine McKew, same with Mary Delahunty. The question raised was about ABC people LEAVING to run for office.

Then review the list, it is not a list of people only Leaving the ABC to run for office.

 

[dan c]

Then review the list, it is not a list of people only Leaving the ABC to run for office.

OK, people leaving to run for office OR work for the Liberal National Party.

You are totally missing the point. Macca believes the ABC has 'blatant left leaning ideology'. And he can't remember with (selective) memory any ABC person leaving to become a Liberal candidate. The list shows quite a few who did.

So, did these people shed their "left leaning ideology" to run for / work for the Liberal Party?

Or is the ABC perhaps not as biased as Macca believes?

 

[dan c]

found this at: http://finster.wordpress.com/2007/04/15/its-alive/
trust the author doesn't mind the cut and paste:
a bit old but no doubt there are more since:
Pru Goward – need I say more?
Gary Hardgrave – was a minister in the Howard Government, is a former ABC television journalist.
Peter Collins – led NSW Liberal Party for a few years, is a former ABC television journalist.
Jim Bonner – after leaving the staff of Malcolm Fraser he held senior editorial positions with ABC radio and television in Canberra and Adelaide. He later became Director of the Liberal Party in South Australia.
Peter McArthur – former current affairs reporter and newsreader for the ABC served several years in the Victorian Parliament as a Liberal member.
Cathy Job – a current affairs presenter for ABC radio in Brisbane, resigned to become a media adviser to David Kemp.
Vicki Thompson – senior political reporter for ABC radio in Adelaide became Chief of Staff for John Olsen, Liberal Premier of South Australia.
Eoin Cameron – former Liberal member for the seat of Stirling presents the breakfast program on ABC local radio in Perth (a gig he had before he entered parliament as well)
Cameron Thompson – Liberal member for Blair is a former radio journalist with the ABC in Queensland and the Northern Territory
Rob Messenger – National Party member for Burnett was an ABC broadcaster in Bundaberg.

There's the list Turk, the ones in bold ran for a parliamentry seat.

 

[sid]

What would the reason be here in Australia for wanting a 'full-scale' inquiry

If we protect people’s privacy anymore than we do now, there wouldn't be much freedom for the press.

Is it really such a good thing muzzling the media, or having politicians like Bob Brown and Gillard rewriting the rules?

the media should be held to account if they intentionally and continuously misrepresent the facts/research.. fact is we don't get enough honesty and virtually no indepth representation of whats really going on in the world or australia, just look at what policies we have been debating in the media

gay marriage
asylum seekers (boat only)
list past week about craig whats his name implicated with this brothel story

its all just so pointless, these issues shouldn't be the focus, certainly not for as long as it has been, surely there are more important things!

 

[sid]

Would the enquiry investigate the blatant left leaning ideology of the ABC ?

In recent times we have seen a number of ABC personalities run for parliament, I don't recall any of them being Liberal candidates

I think the independent media just take the other side so that right wing thinking public have a media source that suits them.

The lefties like the ABC and the SMH so the others cater to the right, Telegraph and CH7 and CH9.

I actually think that if the ABC was right leaning then the other media would be left leaning simply to cater to the demand and provide headline opportunities that the ABC pass up.

you obviously don't watch much ABC, if you did you would see that just about every panel show more often then not has a slight bias to the right.. onsiders, the panel.. although the panel does tend to be a little more balanced

if you actually watched ABC then you'd know what i mean, i do suggest you tune into onsiders, i think you will like it quite a bit

 

[sid]

apologies about he previous post, appears to already be handled

we need to try a be a little objective especially when it comes to politcs, picking red/blue is a fools game, if we do that we all lose out in the end

 

[turk]

OK, people leaving to run for office OR work for the Liberal National Party.

You are totally missing the point. Macca believes the ABC has 'blatant left leaning ideology'. And he can't remember with (selective) memory any ABC person leaving to become a Liberal candidate. The list shows quite a few who did.

So, did these people shed their "left leaning ideology" to run for / work for the Liberal Party?

Or is the ABC perhaps not as biased as Macca believes?

Hi dan c

As pointed out by you the question concerned the number of people leaving
the ABC to run for parliament.

Typo4567 posted a list of 10 names that met the above criteria, a quick look
shows only 6 of the 10 names seem to meet that the criteria.

Following typo4567's example a quick google shows that only 1 of the 6 actually left the ABC to run for parliament and he entered state parliament
35 years ago.

To discredit Macca's claim you would need to have a comparative list.

I don't watch much TV, when I do it usually SBS followed by the ABC and I think there are swings and roundabouts with the coverage, but to post a list such as this and claim it to be people that left the ABC to stand for Parliament is rubbish and unfortunatly strenghens Maccas arguement.

Cheers

Pete

 

[House_Keeper]

Interesting discussion. I stopped watching TV news a long time ago, never regularly bought newspapers, and have following news on the web for the lat 10 years, mostly from the traditional media (smh, the economist, ...).

However there are so many news channel with worthwhile stuff but you can't follow them all. More recently I started to use twitter to gather news from all those sources. Really easy to do: set up an account, choose from a range of news providers. You get news from all sources summarised in one small sentence. Very good to filter stuff and focus on what you are interested in. I prefer twitter now as my first point of contact for news.

Beyond the traditional media, there are people who built up alternative news channel over the web, often starting from a blog. Many focus on a specific topic, it really depends on what interests you. I have found this one recently regarding health that sometimes exposes corruption within the US government. Quite interesting as the mainstream media often stays away from such controversial stuff.

 

[josko]

Right now, Canberra is debating whether to launch a full-scale inquiry into the Australian media industry. But politicians are jumpy. Without public pressure this inquiry will never make it off the ground.

Here's your chance to do something about changing it.

Click here - http://www.newsstand.org.au/campaigns/free-and-fair/demand-an-inquiry/demand-an-inquiry

to join a petition to get the inquiry up and running.

Cheers
Olly

No thanks Olly.

More wasted money. From what I have seen of "inquiries" in PArliament...they amount to absloutely nothing.

Regards JO

 

[josko]

As far as the ABS goes, it has swings but in my opinion leans more to the right as has been suggested.

Q&A sometimes frustrates me, as does most of the guest panelists on The Drum.

However, some of the panelists on the Drum are just so far off the actual topic in their understanding of it, it's hilarious.

Regards JO

 

[typo4567]

In recent times we have seen a number of ABC personalities run for parliament, I don't recall any of them being Liberal candidates

My point was someone who could only remeber ALP candidates and not one L-NP candidates doesn't follow public affairs very closely or has a selective memory....
That's what I posted a quick reply to.
The list is an old one I found in a couple of seconds and apologies if it offended anyone.
I also found questions asked of ABC MD Mark Scott (yes the Howard appointee who worked in NSW Liberal Minster Terry Metherall's office - horror!)

We've found nine former ABC journalists who've made it into Parliament for conservative parties and 10 for the Labor Party.
So, we're seeing some at the moment. But it's a broad church the ABC and we've provided many candidates for both sides of Parliament over time.

Again it's an old quote but it shows that people who are interested in public affairs sometimes run for public office as a result of that interest.
Even Alan Jones tried for the Liberal Party and his boss @ 2GB, John Singelton started his own political party! Anyone want to object to 2GB and A Jones on the grounds of political involvement?
I think it's healthy that anyone takes an interest in politics and there should be more of it on all sides.
The "ABC - Left leaning" consiparcy is like Rorschach ink blots - we all see what we want to see to back our own view of the world.
Even me sometimes....

 

[jaycee]

Would the enquiry investigate the blatant left leaning ideology of the ABC ?

In recent times we have seen a number of ABC personalities run for parliament, I don't recall any of them being Liberal candidates

I think the independent media just take the other side so that right wing thinking public have a media source that suits them.

The lefties like the ABC and the SMH so the others cater to the right, Telegraph and CH7 and CH9.

I actually think that if the ABC was right leaning then the other media would be left leaning simply to cater to the demand and provide headline opportunities that the ABC pass up.

Well there's another way to solve that

Obviously the stupid left leaning ABC is too stupdid and left to see sense and change their view to become right lean ers.


So just go and get all the right to chagne to left and th eABC will fvlolow them like the sheep it is

Cause t's not like the left have an ideology like the right do anyway....

 

[Aaron Sice]

apologies about he previous post, appears to already be handled

we need to try a be a little objective especially when it comes to politcs, picking red/blue is a fools game, if we do that we all lose out in the end

there's more happening behind the scenes than retired volunteers counting your ballot box "1".

 

[sid]

there's more happening behind the scenes than retired volunteers counting your ballot box "1".

yes i know and its all quite depressing, all the more reason not to blindly follow a particular "team"...

 

[Aaron Sice]

yes i know and its all quite depressing, all the more reason not to blindly follow a particular "team"...

....or unenrol to vote

 

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