That's because so far they have been generally right. Could we have now reached the turning point?
A tale of two cities -Melbourne and Sydney
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That's because so far they have been generally right. Could we have now reached the turning point?
You've got a lot more blog posts to go mate better get your thesis out there.
So far you have;
Media's fault
Dual incomes fault (can't go higher unless your a polygamist or sell your kids, or just their future (whatever that means.).
You've still gotta to blame;
The past gubement policy
Present gubement policy
future gubement policy
Federal gubements
State gubements
Pretty sure you can nit pick about councils (you know they're corrupt rate collectors or something)
Speculators (aka investors)
Bank credit policy
Global markets
Real estate agents
Mortgage brokers
Ponzi schemes
Corrupt and unlawful lending policies (can't blame the poor mug who signs up)
Hell why not blame the poor mug who signs up and call them a Mortgage mug too boot.
Statistics (point to the "right" statistics highlight the "flawed" "manipulated" "fabricated" ones and show they are wrong.)
I reckon you should have all that done in one afternoon if you have all your references handy.
I'm not sure what your point is?
I have sufficient housing to shelter myself and my family, no more. That's all anyone needs.
Yes, but you have the means to shelter other families and you choose not to.
Jonril is giving you a whole bunch of future topics for your blog. They're the ones that usually come up when these sort of discussions eventuate. He's being very magnanimous. All of them have been covered here - usually when trolls visit. So you'll be able to do all your research here. How good is that!
You could end up with one of the best anti property investor blogs/bleats out there in the rarely visited pockets of the internet.
Jonril is giving you a whole bunch of future topics for your blog. They're the ones that usually come up when these sort of discussions eventuate. He's being very magnanimous. All of them have been covered here - usually when trolls visit. So you'll be able to do all your research here. How good is that!
You could end up with one of the best anti property investor blogs/bleats out there in the rarely visited pockets of the internet.
ah ah, hilarious, because then the poster would have to get off his back and do something himself.
Much easier to just sit back and whinge.
Read his profile: occupation: blogger.
Well we have another armchair theorist
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It's a shame you can't see any difference between someone who owns one home for his family, and speculators who hold multiple empty houses. It reflects badly on you. It's also a shame that so many people on this forum choose to attack me personally, rather than addressing the issues. It reinforces my view that society is made worse by the hoarding of empty dwellings.
What would a suitable solution be today ?
Having done some work with Homeless folk, I dont believe its so simple as just an economic issue in many cases.
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Okay, so hand up everyone on Somersoft who is hoarding an empty house? C'mon, fess up.
Now hand up everyone who is renting out a property at a rate determined by the market?
It's only annecdotal I know, but getting back to those three empty house s that were in the street behind me. All of them were deceased estates and the Public Trustee was involved and sat on them for ages. None of them were liveable. I think the Public Trustee's tardiness owed more to lethagy than strategy.
Different here,
Most investors here on this forum don't hoard property. It wouldn't be financially viable for most. If the ones that choose to hoard, let them. Its them that will come crashing down while the roller coaster heads downwards albeit though slightly because they are not getting any income and are relying on speculation and they have a bank balance that they will struggle to hold.
But on the other hand, are you saying that multimillionaires shouldnt hold multiple high end properties if they could afford it? Well welcome to capitalism. They earn the money, they can do whatever they want with it.
We can't get away from the supply and demand unless Australia becomes a total extreme socialist country.(God forbid).
Good that you mention the issues of affordability. But everyone here knows it. And if you look at the numbers carefully, its still easier to rent than buy. So what do you think we should do to improve affordability or even go further to improve the housing situation? The govt wont listen to you or us thats for sure.
Most investors here on this forum don't hoard property. It wouldn't be financially viable for most. If the ones that choose to hoard, let them. Its them that will come crashing down while the roller coaster heads downwards albeit though slightly because they are not getting any income and are relying on speculation and they have a bank balance that they will struggle to hold.
But on the other hand, are you saying that multimillionaires shouldnt hold multiple high end properties if they could afford it? Well welcome to capitalism. They earn the money, they can do whatever they want with it.
We can't get away from the supply and demand unless Australia becomes a total extreme socialist country.(God forbid).
Good that you mention the issues of affordability. But everyone here knows it. And if you look at the numbers carefully, its still easier to rent than buy. So what do you think we should do to improve affordability or even go further to improve the housing situation? The govt wont listen to you or us thats for sure.
Its a shame that you choose to vent your frustrations by just blogging, instead of actually performing some useful action yourself if you feel so strongly about this issue.
Easy to sit around and blog, makes you feel morally superior, but the fact is you are sitting on your backside, when you could be acting upon your beliefs.
For starters how about putting your family in one room, and providing the other rooms for homeless people.
You believe putting my family in one room and providing the other rooms for homeless people, is a better solution than freeing up the hundreds of thousands of empty homes in Australia? Why should those poor homeless people be forced to cram into rooms in an already occupied, modest home, when there are hundreds of thousands of empty homes available?
I do my bit for society, including a fair bit of volunteer work. What do you do?
Do you do anything for purely altruistic reasons?
Shame on you.
Quite clearly they don't, because when I first mentioned the fact that homes had become less affordable over the past two decades, many members here denied this was true, and abused me for even daring to mention it!
Guess that's why you think houses are too expensive, hey DH?
Very appropriate initials by the way...
Shame on you for comming on here purely to stir people up and use our words for your pathetic little blog. You add no value. Not here! Not in the real world (cause you offer no solutions)! Not on your blog!
Find something constructive to do!
Tony, the 'hundreds of thousands of empty homes' myth has been debunked many times here and elsewhere. Most empty house are simply uninhabitable. Why don't you put some energy into getting the Public Trustee to repair the homes under its control and lease them out for emergency accomodation.
Start a campaign where all councils do what some councils do and let squatters live in abandoned commercial buildings.
Do something. Just stop bleating.
And stop saying 'shame on you'. Only characters in childrens books written in the 1950s say that sort of thing.
Start a campaign where all councils do what some councils do and let squatters live in abandoned commercial buildings.
Do something. Just stop bleating.
And stop saying 'shame on you'. Only characters in childrens books written in the 1950s say that sort of thing.
I never said its a better option, just an option. Something that you could actually do.
But of course its much easier to just write a blog than to actually do something.
Or you could buy one of these empty homes you keep eluding to, and then house some homeless people in them. Again this would involve both action and utilisation of your capital.
But no, you dont want your capital tied up in such persuits.
Much easier to say, all i have is my debt free home, and its others, or the government who should be doing something about it.
Who is the sad little man in all of this????
The thing is its less affordable than in the days of my parents. But the only reason for that is wages havent kept up. And as some ppl said, houses are much bigger and packed with more luxuries. Thats no way to say straight down its less affordable.
With the empty dwellings, its a free market. Unless, we get back to China/Cuba in the 70s, you/we might not have the chance to even own our own home. so what do you reckon we should do about it? that was the next part of my earlier comment.
Overall, like i said earlier, most investors here don't have vacant dwellings/IPs. So you might need to take your petition to ppl similar to a Donald Trump level.
Time to move on folks
This is a Property Market Economics Forum, not a discussion on Macro Policy, which is going no where fast
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This is a Property Market Economics Forum, not a discussion on Macro Policy, which is going no where fast
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