Bunch of jealous whiners

They probably have a few more that we don't know about as well :)

A Malaysian chinese once told me thatt whiteys were considered "red hairy monkies"- red after any physical exertion and hairy due to more body hair. Monkies as afollow on from the hairy I think.
 
Can you blame people for getting a bit annoyed about the prospect of a 3 hour commute each day simply to afford to buy a house to live in?
They don't need to work 3 hours from where they live...change jobs/careers, or if you must work in the absolute inner city then get over it and resign themselves to the fact that while they choose to work where they do, they won't be buying the house of their dreams anytime soon. It's a choice.

Don't forget, investors have had massive incentives over the years to accumulate more and more property and that has had an effect on how easy it is for people starting out to get on the property ladder.
It's interesting that while the incentives to accumulate seem to be so fantastic, very few ever actually do it.

The snobbery about "generations" and not wanting to work for anything are just as rude and offensive as those about rich selfish investors.
So true
 
Lizzie, my post was not aimed at you, sorry if you read it that way:eek:

My post was really more about the way the world seems to have become so judgemental of others. Perhaps it is more noticeable now that everything is so quickly disseminated through all out electronic gadgets.

I watch a lot of docos and most commentators seem to subtly pick holes in every other race except there own, except if they are a rabid greenie who love criticising everyone except themselves.

I like the older docos for a laugh, some of the shrill AGW claims made in 2008 really are hilarious.
 
Lizzie, my post was not aimed at you, sorry if you read it that way:eek:

Don't worry - I didn't think it was directed my way, but rather a general comment ... and I wasn't offended in any way.

Did make me realise that perhaps I had to clarify what I initially said tho ... which I still think is valid.

Signed
Irish-descent-freckly-tanned-blonde-redhead-ghost-lady
 
Don't worry - I didn't think it was directed my way, but rather a general comment ... and I wasn't offended in any way.

Did make me realise that perhaps I had to clarify what I initially said tho ... which I still think is valid.

Signed
Irish-descent-freckly-tanned-blonde-redhead-ghost-lady

Funny, when I picture what you look like (in my head) you are about 1 foot tall, soft and squishy,and multi colored....something like your avatar:p
 
I still don't think my question was judgemental or out of line ... now that the WHOLE situation has been explained I think it wonderful.

My concern is that, in this rapidly changing world, the 15-20 years between helping the kids thru uni and parents retiring is a long time in which some radical changes in attitudes, and workforce mobility, can occur.
Only have to look at the current Italian and Greek situations where the children are beginning to resent the elders for endorsing a system that basically ensures they remain unemployed in their own countries ... and caring for elderly parents from the other side of the world won't be easy either. It's not like they can move in with you as happened a generation ago if they are in China, and you are in the UK (or similar).

Although - I do really repect the caring for parents, and our next house (which we are building) is designed with a self contained large bedsit (tv area, ensuite, kitchenette etc) for my father in law when he can no longer stay on his own.

You seem to know lots more about others than they even know about themselves. Who am I supposed to be resenting like other peers of mine ? :confused:

Perhaps the family will be able work out their own future without our "concern" or intereference like they've succesfully and happily lived their lives up until now.
 
What?????? No one's resenting anyone. Just aware of dramatic changes occuring in the world and how we live compared to previous generations with little change. Only have to look at the pace of change in China over the last 10 years.

Sheesh - sensitive!
 
All I should have said was that this confuses me

Only have to look at the current Italian and Greek situations where the children are beginning to resent the elders for endorsing a system that basically ensures they remain unemployed in their own countries
 
The root cause of the trouble in Greece has been an overly-generous state (high salaries for public servants, generous pensions for retirees), along with tax evasion being a national sport.

I'm not sure about the situation in Italy, but whilst they've got an enormous national debt, the budget deficit is actually smaller than in Germany. Theoretically it should be affordable if the markets weren't so jumpy. Berlusconi really didn't help.

The PIIGS, the UK and a few other countries are running austerity programmes, which have meant a reduction in government spending, though I'm not sure that the British example is as strict as it's being sold as. In addition, the younger and newly qualified members of the working population are struggling to get into work as there are fewer jobs.

So I believe that youth unemployment is mainly a side effect of political and economic conditions.

One of the causes, particularly in France and Spain even before the GFC, was that the level of protection for workers was so high that it was virtually impossible to sack someone or make them redundant.

An idea that has been gaining traction in the EU is flexicurity, which is the Scandinavian approach to the labour market. Workers can be dismissed relatively easily, but a generous social safety net exists. This means that employers can adjust their staffing levels quickly in response to economic conditions, and employees won't suffer too badly if or when they lose a job.
 
The root cause of the trouble in Greece has been an overly-generous state (high salaries for public servants, generous pensions for retirees), along with tax evasion being a national sport.

I'm not sure about the situation in Italy, but whilst they've got an enormous national debt, the budget deficit is actually smaller than in Germany. Theoretically it should be affordable if the markets weren't so jumpy. Berlusconi really didn't help.

The Italians problem is that the younger generation do not want to work and are happy to sponge off their parents and grandparents.

You see them escorting theolder generations to the post offices and baks to gettheir share of the cash.
 
My brother-in-law is Italian, living in Australia for 30 years now, aged mid 60s. His three adult children live and work there and brothers and sisters and their children, so he keeps up-to-date.

He tells us that public servants in Italy have only to work ten years before being eligible for a full pension, even if they may only be 30 when they leave that employment.

He also says they can then go to a different job and that employer will pay a pension (after a certain time?). He says there are people raking in three pensions (or more?).

I have no reason not to believe him, and if this is the case, then this would need looking at first by any government trying to cut expenses, surely?

Our first day in Rome in September was marred by a strike by pensioners. Now I've heard his version of things, I'm wondering why they were striking. I think it was due to the pension age being raised (or planning to do so).
 
Our Chinese friends call us "White eyes".

White Eyes or Wide Eyes?

I thought we were "stinky round eyes"

Palmolive to blame?

Deltaberry said:
Throw in Lebanese, Sri Lankans, Egyptians, Pakistanis, Koreans, Japanese, Indians Singaporeans, Thai, Taiwanese, Indian, Philippines, Indonesian, Malaysian and many many more too. And I believe this makes up 60%+ of the global population.

There's more than one way to live life and very often the globally dominant cultures (ie American-Western European) too readily assumes everybody has the same values and ways of life.

The Great Australian Dream, is also apparently a great dream elsewhere also......... though a bit of a nightmare in the US currently as they toss & turn
 
My brother-in-law is Italian, living in Australia for 30 years now, aged mid 60s. His three adult children live and work there and brothers and sisters and their children, so he keeps up-to-date.

He tells us that public servants in Italy have only to work ten years before being eligible for a full pension, even if they may only be 30 when they leave that employment.

He also says they can then go to a different job and that employer will pay a pension (after a certain time?). He says there are people raking in three pensions (or more?).

I have no reason not to believe him, and if this is the case, then this would need looking at first by any government trying to cut expenses, surely?

Our first day in Rome in September was marred by a strike by pensioners. Now I've heard his version of things, I'm wondering why they were striking. I think it was due to the pension age being raised (or planning to do so).

How does a pensioner go on strike ?
 
How does a pensioner go on strike ?

Sorry for the confusion. The strike was by people who are striking (we were told) to stop the pension age from increasing. Every tourist destination was closed. Didn't bother us but we heard several irate people who had one day to see the Colosseum and it was closed, as was everything else.

The marchers were of all ages, but mostly had grey hair and were on the "older" side of the ledger.
 
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