They may have a point that shortening carbon dioxide to carbon is confusing, but it's hardly a lie.
It's also not the full story either - carbon dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas that will be regulated.
The rest of the 'lies' are true.
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They may have a point that shortening carbon dioxide to carbon is confusing, but it's hardly a lie.
It's also not the full story either - carbon dioxide is not the only greenhouse gas that will be regulated.
The rest of the 'lies' are true.
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All of them. he even he admits he lies. 
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/18/tony-abbotts-struggle-with-the-truth/
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/18/tony-abbotts-struggle-with-the-truth/
Tony and the ETS...
Malcolm on Tony:
Malcolm on Tony:
All of them. he even he admits he lies.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/05/18/tony-abbotts-struggle-with-the-truth/
Actually none of them are, just because he is questioning the AGW religion and some of the "science" behind it doesnt make them lies, it simply means he is not accepting everything put forward.
Which when you look at some the exposed manipulation by the IPCC and what is driving the agenda, is a good thing IMHO.
Quoting Crikey, the age, SMH and the ABC is like quoting Bolt against the ALP. Not what i would call an independent source on the matter.
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All of them are. Dont you remember when Tony ws caught out lying last year and he admitted he lies. Its similar to John Howard's "core promises' rant as a viable excuse for breaking a promise.
The media list you mentioned are pretty balanced compared to the mad right wing media and shock jocks. They only seem left wing cause they dont support the Libs, in reality they are unbiased.
And a mile more impartial than quoting a website designed solely against a CT/Gillard.
The media list you mentioned are pretty balanced compared to the mad right wing media and shock jocks. They only seem left wing cause they dont support the Libs, in reality they are unbiased.
And a mile more impartial than quoting a website designed solely against a CT/Gillard.
Malcolm Turnbull being ex Leader of Opposition, (Liberal Party). A current member of the Liberal Party. I'm a bit surprised you guys didn't see or hear any of all this, Tony was pretty outspoken about his dithering.
I think this (below) is the Liberals classic ploy of having no real policy but trying to read the electorate to stay (or get) in power.
The Liberals are - how you say - policy bankrupt and pretty much always have been.
They dont have a valid alternative policy to anything Labor puts up so they continue with the negative put downs, lies, propaganda, false information etc etc..and their followers unthinkingly lap it up and follow blindly like sheep....or penguins.
"Former Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull’s comments on Tony Abbott’s position.
“Tony himself has, in just four or five months, publicly advocated the blocking of the ETS, the passing of the ETS, the amending of the ETS and, if the amendments were satisfactory, passing it, and now the blocking of it.”
“We have an Opposition whose current leadership dismisses the Howard Government's ETS policy as being just a political ploy. We have an Opposition Leader who has in the space of a few months held every possible position on the issue, each one contradicting the position he expressed earlier."
The Liberals are - how you say - policy bankrupt and pretty much always have been.
They dont have a valid alternative policy to anything Labor puts up so they continue with the negative put downs, lies, propaganda, false information etc etc..and their followers unthinkingly lap it up and follow blindly like sheep....or penguins.
"Former Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull’s comments on Tony Abbott’s position.
“Tony himself has, in just four or five months, publicly advocated the blocking of the ETS, the passing of the ETS, the amending of the ETS and, if the amendments were satisfactory, passing it, and now the blocking of it.”
“We have an Opposition whose current leadership dismisses the Howard Government's ETS policy as being just a political ploy. We have an Opposition Leader who has in the space of a few months held every possible position on the issue, each one contradicting the position he expressed earlier."
It's also worth trotting this one out again for those that missed it.
I'm not sure if this is funny or just bizarre. This guy is not fit to tie Paul Keating's shoe laces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUNEsSdy_g
Tony Abbott trying to mind control channel 7 news reader to dissapear....... After being asked a tough question by channel 7 newsreader oposition leader Tony Abbott tries to use the power of his mind in an attempt to embed his message into the newsreaders mind.... This must be done in utter silence and constant nodding in order achieve mind control.... according to Tony Abbot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUNEsSdy_g
Tony Abbott trying to mind control channel 7 news reader to dissapear....... After being asked a tough question by channel 7 newsreader oposition leader Tony Abbott tries to use the power of his mind in an attempt to embed his message into the newsreaders mind.... This must be done in utter silence and constant nodding in order achieve mind control.... according to Tony Abbot:
"Koozzoo.com produces to order TV news and PR segments from as little as $149."
That's not a credible source of information, it's a PR firm.
That's on par with the moon landing and 911 conspiracy theories... nice one! Was that a uni project or something?
For $149 I think it's a bargain. Want to go halves in a "reverse vampires are stealing kidneys" one?
In your reality you may think they are unbiased because it suits YOUR politics. They are every bit as one sided as Bolt is on the other.
lol i thought it was gold - i mean, i've done presentations on camera before for "news" on social media and it's all pretty much "what do you want us to say?"...!
just goes to show you gotta be good with your presentation or it just comes across dodge.
are you quite done?
seriously, you're like the flea stuck under the dog collar.
or like tony abbott, with no credible opposition, just a denial of status quo.
There's not a single lie in there. There is flip flopping on his position but there is no lie. BTW, I am still wondering why Turnbull isnt in the Labor party too, suits his politics better and would be a better leader for them than anyone else they currently have. The only reason i believe he supports an ETS is self interest and the money he can see for himself and merchant banking friends in Carbon trading.
You cant be serious, those guys are rabid. A govt agency (ABC) could not be that biased. Even in Labor opposition.
there were a couple of posts earlier in thsi thread from Alan Jones in Sydney where he is feral against Gillar and the CT.
Also, he is under investigation for misleading statements on Climate Chnage and the CT.
Do you think you'd read or hear this stuff on any of the media outlets you mention, i dont think so: If so, can you give me a few examples. Thanks.
What about this brain-dead Sarah Hanson-Young, from the Greens?
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 6th July, 2011
On Clover Moore:
Quote:
Clover Moore is the Lord Mayor of Sydney. And Alan Jones would like to...
Alan Jones: Put her in the same chaff bag as Julia Gillard and throw them both out to sea.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 29th June, 2011
Quote:
Alan Jones: ... that fool Windsor wanted broadband, that idiot Wilkie in Tasmania wanted poker machine reform ...
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 12th July, 2011
... they've struck a tax which is half of what that fool Garnaut said it should be ...
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 11th July, 2011
Th guy is incapable of expressing a point without name calling and abusing people. He claims he never 'gets personal':
Quote:
'Tony': The Australian taxpayer even pays for the toilet paper she uses.
Does she go down to the chemist to buy her tampons? Or is the Australian taxpayer paying for those as well? ...
In my opinion Julia Gillard is a piece of crap ...
Alan Jones: Ok, well you made a lot of valid points there. We've just got to avoid in our criticism the personal. We stick to the policy; we never deal with the personal.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 28th February, 2011
The comments he likes people to send in:
Quote:
Breakfast host Alan Jones likes to air his listeners' factual opinions about Julia Gillard too. Like this email from 'Colin'...
Alan Jones: Another one says "please, please don't have that lying ***** on your program again, I had to move the dial to another station. I guess it was worth the once to show us all what a beep lying, beep backstabbing, beep treacherous, beep beep she is."
Thanks Colin.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 28th February, 2011
there were a couple of posts earlier in thsi thread from Alan Jones in Sydney where he is feral against Gillar and the CT.
Also, he is under investigation for misleading statements on Climate Chnage and the CT.
Do you think you'd read or hear this stuff on any of the media outlets you mention, i dont think so: If so, can you give me a few examples. Thanks.
What about this brain-dead Sarah Hanson-Young, from the Greens?
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 6th July, 2011
On Clover Moore:
Quote:
Clover Moore is the Lord Mayor of Sydney. And Alan Jones would like to...
Alan Jones: Put her in the same chaff bag as Julia Gillard and throw them both out to sea.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 29th June, 2011
Quote:
Alan Jones: ... that fool Windsor wanted broadband, that idiot Wilkie in Tasmania wanted poker machine reform ...
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 12th July, 2011
... they've struck a tax which is half of what that fool Garnaut said it should be ...
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 11th July, 2011
Th guy is incapable of expressing a point without name calling and abusing people. He claims he never 'gets personal':
Quote:
'Tony': The Australian taxpayer even pays for the toilet paper she uses.
Does she go down to the chemist to buy her tampons? Or is the Australian taxpayer paying for those as well? ...
In my opinion Julia Gillard is a piece of crap ...
Alan Jones: Ok, well you made a lot of valid points there. We've just got to avoid in our criticism the personal. We stick to the policy; we never deal with the personal.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 28th February, 2011
The comments he likes people to send in:
Quote:
Breakfast host Alan Jones likes to air his listeners' factual opinions about Julia Gillard too. Like this email from 'Colin'...
Alan Jones: Another one says "please, please don't have that lying ***** on your program again, I had to move the dial to another station. I guess it was worth the once to show us all what a beep lying, beep backstabbing, beep treacherous, beep beep she is."
Thanks Colin.
— 2GB, The Alan Jones Breakfast Show, 28th February, 2011
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