Getting an old granny flat approved

There is a property that I’m interested in that has an unapproved granny flat. Unfortunately, that granny flat has been shut down by the council as supposedly the owner dobbed it in themselves (I’m guessing they had a very undesirable tenant and that was the easiest way of getting them to leave, or it’s BS).
What are the chances of getting this granny flat approved by the council if it meets all the requirements?

This is Gosford council by the way.

Thanks.
 
Unauthorised granny flat

Hiya

I did just that 2 years ago; bought a house with an unauthorised gf; neighbour dobbed me in just as i signed off contract....

Pissed me off and i got a pte certifier in....then got a builder to fire proof one side of the gf(mind you, it was less than .9m setback as required:p) and rented it out...i think total cost me 5K rented now for 250:p PLUS i can now say i have a 3 bedder house with an authorised gf when it comes to selling and this makes me happy:p

this is in sydney though...
 
Unauthorised granny flat

Oh...forgot to say you can fireproof wall but the ceiling height MUST be 2.4m min that you can't change:eek:
 
Good advice there from Virgo. :)

Find a Private Certifier who will do a retrospective approval for you. As Virgo said, there may need to be some minor changes made for it to comply - but worth the effort IMO.

...and do it NOW, while Gosford council has waived Section 94 contributions on granny flats (but this comes up for review in September this year). This will save you $7-10K in fees.
 
Good advice there from Virgo. :)

Find a Private Certifier who will do a retrospective approval for you. As Virgo said, there may need to be some minor changes made for it to comply - but worth the effort IMO.

...and do it NOW, while Gosford council has waived Section 94 contributions on granny flats (but this comes up for review in September this year). This will save you $7-10K in fees.

I was also going to post this.

How long has it been up for?
 
Thanks for the info everyone.

This is the property in question by the way. I'm no entirely sure that it conforms to the setback rules though, the granny flat does seem to be very close to the back alley. Would I possibly get away with this if I got a private certifier?
 
Talk to the private certifier, you might also need to be compliant with BASIX requirements - hot water system, water tank, insulation, etc
 
Hiya

I know that a council will not approve a building retrospectively, if anyone has had this done it is the rare expectation, and not the rule.
The fact that they have shut it down is not a good sign for that particular approach.

Agree with some comments made, get yourself a private certifier or building surveyor/architect, who specialises in this area, someone who has had experience with the local council and bares a grudge against them would be ideal, as they have a point to prove.

not sure how virgo got the planning approval through a private certifer unless it was deemed complying development, i would be interested to know what kind of development it was assessed under.

I myself bought a relocatable GF and thought it could be approved via complying development, but was wrong, it got approved but under the Local Government Act 1993 (S68) and the local LEP plan.

Councils make me laugh sometimes, they have a hard job, dealing with so many applications, they tend to air on the cautious side and if they have any doubts will throw the book at you.
Hire an expert as mentioned, expect to pay for there services, this could well save you thousands in the long run.
 
A Private Certifier can't approve a granny flat conversion if doesn't meet the SEPP regulations and the BCA.

Possible good news though (assuming it's at the lane way):
A granny flat built at the boundary of a Laneway can now be approved under the SEPP (at zero setbacks) if it is maximum 50% of the block width.
See here:
Granny Flat SEPP
Schedule 1 Development standards for secondary dwellings
Part 10: Setbacks from rear boundaries
(Clause 3): ....a dwelling on a lot that has a rear boundary with a laneway may have a building line that abuts that boundary for up to 50 per cent of the length of that boundary

The side setback must be minimum 900mm- assuming the overall height of the granny flat (at any point) is 3.8m or less, as measured from lowest natural ground level. Any higher than that and the setbacks must increase at 0.25x

The Certifier is also legally bound to ensure that ALL prerequisites of the SEPP are met. This includes:

- direct access ( a door) must be available from a living area to a 'Private Open Space' with dimensions of minimum 4m x 6m (24 sq m)

-Minimum landscaping must be met (not hard to achieve really): e.g. an average block size (say 600 sq m) must have 75 sq m of rear landscaping and same again at the front of the main dwelling. These cumulative areas cannot be made up of thin strips less than 2.5m wide.

- Minimum 1.8m from the main dwelling's wall to the granny flat's wall. This is a BCA requirement relating to fire-separation (Part 3.7.1 of the BCA).

- BASIX (Energy Efficiency) must be done now, which relates to minimum insulation, gas or solar or heat-pump hot water. Rainwater Tank will be needed and roof-water connected (by a qualified plumber) to a gravity fed or charged system. A certifier must also see a structural Certificate from an engineer certifying that the slab is suitable for the structure under all relevant code practices. A waterproofing Certificate will be needed from a qualified plumber. Internal wall heights must be minimum 2.4 m.

There are other requirements, but you get the picture.

I reckon I get 3-4 phone calls a week from people asking for granny flat conversions. I used to do them but I have to refuse most of them now. Most people who call me thinking it's a 5 minute fix. It just isn't these days. Certifiers are more culpable than ever so they wont risk any non-compliance. Councils have become particularly anal ever since Certifiers have been given the right to approve granny flats under the SEPP. They have retaliated by imposing (in some cases) ridiculous infrastructure fees (Section 94 Levies) or they just simply refuse them outright - of course they will gladly allow you to pend thousands of dollars applying to them for approval before issuing the Refusal.

Im actually depressed after writing all of that. :eek:
 
Hiya

I myself bought a relocatable GF and thought it could be approved via complying development, but was wrong, it got approved but under the Local Government Act 1993 (S68) and the local LEP plan.
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Yea relocatable/transportable buildings are actually not 'buildings' under the Local Government Act, so a Section 68 (if the Local Council allows them) is the way to go. Let me guess, was it Blacktown Council you're in? They're particularly tweaked to that part of the legislation. Actually just one particular Assessment Officer is; I won't name names here. I'm waiting for him to retire haha!
 
If you have a CDC approved for a granny flat, is there any way they can hit you up for Sect 94 contributions in future (should they change the requirements) if you don't build for say 4 yrs??
 
If you have a CDC approved for a granny flat, is there any way they can hit you up for Sect 94 contributions in future (should they change the requirements) if you don't build for say 4 yrs??

Good question. I don't know but I'd fight like crazy if they (Council) tried it on me!
 
There is a property that I’m interested in that has an unapproved granny flat. Unfortunately, that granny flat has been shut down by the council as supposedly the owner dobbed it in themselves (I’m guessing they had a very undesirable tenant and that was the easiest way of getting them to leave, or it’s BS).
What are the chances of getting this granny flat approved by the council if it meets all the requirements?

This is Gosford council by the way.

Thanks.

Are council asking you to take it down?

why dont you just leave it where it is?
 
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