I am in circa 29.30 one for the bottom draw.
High Yielding Shares Again
- Thread starter MTR
- Start date
They will probably get dumped on close now 
They will probably get dumped on close now
I've already closed the drawer on that one (fingers in ears)
Markets moved more in the last couple of months than last year
6,000
5980s today...just a matter of days I think.
I always ask my self that question, in which situation will I feel worse? It has helped me over the years.
Once held a stock which was predicted to rise to $12.00 (bout at IPO at $0.20), so when it rose to $6.00 (30 times in value) I asked the question? And guess what, I was so glad I sold out, it took over 1 month, so volumes and price would not be compromised, it was a prospecting small company, the mine did not come into fruition, not even sure if it exists now, probably does exist in cents now?
So ask yourself that question, it may help, right?
I know I am so glad I sold at $6-$5, rather than be greedy and make future $12, when in fact the price is negligible now.... I think capital protection is number one rule, as you point out, waiting out for the recovery can be long and painful....at least the money you take out can be reinvested otherwise no money no reinvestment, right?
I think someone once mentioned people loose money in property because of two major things, greed and fear, and from experience I do understand what they mean now...same can be applied to any investment asset I think.
So learn on your mistakes..... under what situation will you feel worse, missing out on the extra gain, or making the extra loss or loss of the time?
Ha, ha, ha! these are so good and spot on, I totally agree with the advise comments! Great!
I always ask my self that question, in which situation will I feel worse? It has helped me over the years.
Once held a stock which was predicted to rise to $12.00 (bout at IPO at $0.20), so when it rose to $6.00 (30 times in value) I asked the question? And guess what, I was so glad I sold out, it took over 1 month, so volumes and price would not be compromised, it was a prospecting small company, the mine did not come into fruition, not even sure if it exists now, probably does exist in cents now?
So ask yourself that question, it may help, right?
I know I am so glad I sold at $6-$5, rather than be greedy and make future $12, when in fact the price is negligible now.... I think capital protection is number one rule, as you point out, waiting out for the recovery can be long and painful....at least the money you take out can be reinvested otherwise no money no reinvestment, right?
I think someone once mentioned people loose money in property because of two major things, greed and fear, and from experience I do understand what they mean now...same can be applied to any investment asset I think.
So learn on your mistakes..... under what situation will you feel worse, missing out on the extra gain, or making the extra loss or loss of the time?
Great perspective thank you. I think in hindsight I would preferred to have sold out and taken a small loss with WOW because now I am behind the ape ball once again.
If there is one thing you don't want to be behind, it's an ape ball. That's for sure .
.
Hi All
Am looking at parking my money/profits into some high yielding shares, purely looking at income.
Have been told that the market is too high at the moment, happy to sit and watch. Would be interested in comments on those who are also buying for yield.
I was told that some property listed funds are returning as much as 9%. Very attractive.
I will be drip feeding around $700K, and would like to generate 8% is this possible? BTW have not been researching shares for years, so I will start to research further but this is a starting point.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
MTR
Ok the original thread..back to high yields, perhaps I was a tad ambitious at 8 percent, realistically 6 percent fully franked?
If there is one thing you don't want to be behind, it's an ape ball. That's for sure
Or an ape's balls...!
That's 8.6% grossed up. If you are just chasing yield maybe look at VHY to start with which provides a diversified basket of yield stocks in one Etf. As for timing, can't help there. There are drawbacks to chasing yield of course, capital protection being one. MTS for example has very high yield, but divergent views exist on the future SP! As with property investment, a longer term view is helpful.
Hi RW
No, yields are not everything, would be diversifying and would be nice to high some sold high yielding shares. I think realistically fully franked for cash flow perhaps around 6%
I should probably dismiss this as background noise, but I'm wondering if he's even remotely correct? He's putting his money where his mouth is and getting out of equities.
"Hedge fund giant warns of market shock"
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2015/3/9/australian-news/hedge-fund-giant-warns-market-shock?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1190005&utm_campaign=am&modapt=
"Hedge fund giant warns of market shock"
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/news/2015/3/9/australian-news/hedge-fund-giant-warns-market-shock?utm_source=exact&utm_medium=email&utm_content=1190005&utm_campaign=am&modapt=
Who knows, there are thousands of hedge fund managers out there. They need to take contrarian positions to justify their fees and try to outperform. Most underperform after fees (typically 2 & 20). For him, the move and press coverage will likely bring strong inflows as clients who share his outlook will want to get on board. A win-win for the hedgie. Personally if you have a bearish outlook id be steering clear of hedge funds and be looking at Oaktree Capital (Howard Marks) and Fairfax Financial (Prem Watsa) who are well positioned to profit from a significant downturn. Not advice etc.
hedging is the biggest bunch of BS i've ever come across - in any market, across any margin, in any fund - it's always AT LEAST 50% MORE expensive than advertised to FULLY hedge a position.
try portfolio margining and see the exact difference between "industry standard hedging" and "fully hedged".
it's dumber than paying $1 to save 30c in tax.
try portfolio margining and see the exact difference between "industry standard hedging" and "fully hedged".
it's dumber than paying $1 to save 30c in tax.
