Single Bedroom Dwellings in WA?

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  1. westminster

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    does the rcode for this dwelling type restrict it to 1 bedroom? In NSW our "granny flat" code is 60sqm but no restrictions on bedrooms or anything.
     
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    Theres three senarios in the r-codes.

    1- ancillary dwelling- upto 70sqm. On same title. Now Can be rented seperatly. Any bedrooms.

    2- single bedroom dwelling- can be subdivided off with an allowance for a density bonus.

    3- then theres aged dependendant dwellings. Also bonus density. Upto. 100 m2 i think. Obviously can only be used by the elderly and alot more requirements like wider doors, bathrooms etc.
     
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    ....and min 5 per development.
     
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    I am the same. My place is not very big but the spare room has turned into a junk room. I definitely am looking at smaller for when I am older and 70 sqm sounds perfect. Units have always been a problem for me as I find noise a problem so the smaller the development the better.
     
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    Any updates on this???
    I think there is a market for this, but would want to be close to universities, rail etc.

    Cheers
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    There is some being built in Baldivis and Forrestfield. But they are pretty cheap ones.

    Cost for a nice single storey turnkey would be about $125-150k

    For something like that it would be more in the $150-175 range with the double garage and 2 storey. A simplish 2 storey one can be done for around $150 with careful design.

    This pricing is pretty rough at the moment but I am helping some clients do 4 in Maylands and 2 in Clarkson.
     
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    that's nuts hey, given that you can build a cookie cutter 4x2 for similar money
     
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    Not turnkey and not double storey Ausprop.

    A basic one is probably about $100k like the ones which they are building in Baldivis.

    A mid spec one is about $125k and will include a study and be the full 70sqm.

    A fancy one like those which are 1 bedroom plus study and 2 storey with a double garage probably would be $150+
     
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    I doubt you'd get a decent 4x2 for under $180k
     
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    Thanks for your input Westminster.

    How would you go about doing DD for this sort of development in outer ring suburbs where there is little or no comparables?
    I assume having no comparables would become an issue if the end game was to hold and reval?
     
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    480k for a 1 bedder in Kingsley? ? Are people stupid?
     
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    Yep :cool:
     
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    Tell you what makes the 1 bedders I have proposed be built in the Avenues of Maylands look like very good value! I conservatively valued them at $475k
     
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    I had a chat to a planning officer at city of Joondalup today. I was informed that you can't apply for 5% variation for this sort of development and that you do not qualify for density bonus unless the whole development is single bedroom dwellings. So for R20 750m2 block you can't have a single house (450m2) and single bed (300m2) behind. Sort of went against my understanding of the R Code, though I'm probably wrong.

    Can any r code experts clarify this? Is it just a City of Joondalup thing?
     
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    Something to keep in mind is that you need to pick your location very carefully. These units have been on the market for years.
    http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-wa-kewdale-112510615
    Mind you, they are over 55s only, so that may be a factor. Originally listed in March 2013 for "from $445,000" then dropped to "from $399,000". Now listed as "offers". Not sure if they are ever been lived in.
     
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    the 5% thing I get but the whole complex must be single bedroom dwellings I don't think is right. Perhaps it's a Joondalup thing

    Whilst I haven't seen them I have heard of places where they mix normal with SBDs.

    Very interesting.