Its funny, when you are so into property, you dont realise some people havent got a clue. Was talking to a friend yesterday who said her friend had renovated and spent $54k on her kitchen, $1k on each set of bathroom taps, hubby then went broke (not because of her I dont think) and she couldnt understand why her house was only worth the average price for the neighborhood, whilst my friend's crappy house (amongst million dollar mansions) was worth a million or more