Tend to keep them in the house to catch mozzies and other annoying flying insects. It'd be good if they could catch cockroaches too, but the ones we have are not big enough.....
The Y-man
Yulin Dog Meat Festival. What do you think?
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Tend to keep them in the house to catch mozzies and other annoying flying insects. It'd be good if they could catch cockroaches too, but the ones we have are not big enough.....
The Y-man
We too have kept our fair share of huntsmen in the house because we knew they did not harm. We even thought a couple had their own personalities--one shy and retiring and the other more spunky.
I don't make any judgements on what people in third world countries eat; that is what they have done for centuries and that is all they know. However, first, there is no reason why we should not ensure that these animals are treated HUMANELY--and skinning and boiling alive is not humane. We can educate these people that there are better ways of dealing with an animal.
Secondly, I do draw a distinction between killing a dog and killing a cockroach (although a Buddhist would not) even though I have problems killing the latter. Dogs are called 'man's best friend' for a reason--their loyalty, love and companionship.
I don't make any judgements on what people in third world countries eat; that is what they have done for centuries and that is all they know. However, first, there is no reason why we should not ensure that these animals are treated HUMANELY--and skinning and boiling alive is not humane. We can educate these people that there are better ways of dealing with an animal.
Secondly, I do draw a distinction between killing a dog and killing a cockroach (although a Buddhist would not) even though I have problems killing the latter. Dogs are called 'man's best friend' for a reason--their loyalty, love and companionship.
Like I asked before and you didnt answer,
I am also not talking about isolated cases.
The way you portray it would make some think that its a commonplace occurrence.
Not true, with the power of change.org petitions here and around the world we managed to get Julien Blanc, PUA, refused entry into many countries. But that's a whole other story and not for this thread.
For those too lazy to google:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...=X&ei=UNBzVJPWKsGwmAXu6IEY&sqi=2&ved=0CBwQsAQ
Try again
I see no pictures of
I see no picture of
Have you any "actual" evidence of this taking place in large numbers?
I really did not want to put this link because it makes me physically ill, but since Dec insists here are photos of dogs being boiled alive and roasted alive. Please don't ask again because I won't do it.
https://ciccib.wordpress.com/2013/0...rea-thailand-the-philippines-graphic-content/
https://ciccib.wordpress.com/2013/0...rea-thailand-the-philippines-graphic-content/
Over the past 15 years, I've been a vegetarian, a vegan and a pescatarian. I've also lapsed a few times and have partaken in mammal/bird, but I can count on my hands how many times I've eaten meat since I was 16 (now 31).
Given all of that, I can't see the difference between eating a dog and eating a pig. Sure, dogs are cute, but so are pigs.
It's horrible that some of these dogs may be dying gruesome deaths (if they indeed do), but just look at how we keep pigs and chickens in the most horrid of factory conditions for their entire lives.
I am a massive cat lover but when I open a can of Fancy Feast for them, I am well aware that the only difference between the animal in the can and my cats is that I love my cats. I can't see an ethical distinction beyond this. I feed them meat because I love them and I'm prepared to forgo my principles to keep them, but I can't really see a difference between eating a cat or eating a cow.
The problem with this line of thinking, what of eating a human? I'll leave that ethical conundrum for another thread
Given all of that, I can't see the difference between eating a dog and eating a pig. Sure, dogs are cute, but so are pigs.
It's horrible that some of these dogs may be dying gruesome deaths (if they indeed do), but just look at how we keep pigs and chickens in the most horrid of factory conditions for their entire lives.
I am a massive cat lover but when I open a can of Fancy Feast for them, I am well aware that the only difference between the animal in the can and my cats is that I love my cats. I can't see an ethical distinction beyond this. I feed them meat because I love them and I'm prepared to forgo my principles to keep them, but I can't really see a difference between eating a cat or eating a cow.
The problem with this line of thinking, what of eating a human? I'll leave that ethical conundrum for another thread
That's because dogs have the intelligence to be moulded into your best friend. Cockroaches might be the nicest creatures in the world, but we wouldn't know because we can't understand them as easily as dogs.
Don't forget dogs can also be trained to become vicious killers too. When was the last time a cockroach ripped out someone's throat on command?
Speciest!
As I thought and as I said you have no evidence of it being done in any significant numbers and no evidence that they are actually alive.
All you have is some blog from an animal activist which is no better than the piles of anti muslim rhetoric that is fed to the gullible masses which is then passed off as fact to even more gullible masses.
Let me ask you this, do you really think those dogs are just calmly sitting there in the boiling water, fire or under the torch?
If they were alive they would be scrabbling and biting madly trying to get away from the pain.
And if they were alive as the activest makes out, what sort of sick ******* calmly sits there and takes close up pictures of their suffering?
Dec, thanks for misquoting me and I'm glad you agree it's a barbaric practice.
My son is farming spiders out in the old shed I believe . There are cobwebs in the corners of some windows and he will catch flies and flick them into the webs so the poor spider will have a juicy morsel to feast on .
Is there anything wrong with that ? I would rather he did that than catch flies and eat them as he did when he was younger
Hi DEC, I actually addressed this earlier in the thread and pointed out that there was no evidence whatsoever that the claims being made were provable. They still aren't.
For starters, those dogs in the boiling water are clearly dead. There is no way any animal could withstand the practice of being skinned alive. There's just no way. Also, the blowtorch picture, it is possible the dog was alive, but highly unlikely. As I pointed out earlier, that particular photo wasn't taken in Yulin, it's not even in the same province.
This is the kind of 'evidence' that p_g puts up as an attempt to somehow prove what she is saying is true, when there is obviously no connection whatsoever and the claims made have no evidence to back them up.
But hey, why let a pesky little thing like facts get in the way of a healthy dose of what Jack Donovan calls 'outrage porn'.
All I can say is that thank goodness that hundreds of thousands of people--not just animal activists--have done a lot of work to ensure that these animals are protected. MrFab can continue to put his head in the sand.
As opposed to all the reliable evidence and stats proffered by the likes of MrFab, which is none. lol.
An extra layer of waste is that a sizeable portion of the annual catch worldwide is fed to factory farmed pigs and chickens.
Not sure how or why anyone would trot out anything Donovan states as credible--the same Jack Donovan who openly admits his disgust for gays, transsexuals and feminists, even though he himself is gay. Please keep the manosphere stuff out of here.
That actually sounds a little ominous...are you sure he's not half-spider?My son is farming spiders...
...I would rather he did that than catch flies and eat them as he did when he was younger
Peter, I know. The seafood industry needs to be cleaned up. I saw this recent tv special:
http://www.sbs.com.au/programs/whats-the-catch
I don't eat too much fish and meat. But when I do eat fish, I will be buying sardines (fresh).
Is there anything wrong with that ? I would rather he did that than catch flies and eat them as he did when he was younger
Nothing wrong with that. I used to catch flies, pull out their legs and feed them to the ants - when I was a kid. Not nowadays!