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Utter bollocks.
The nurses are reassigned to other duties, usually to other operations where other nurses have needed replacing due to sick leave or whatever. I've never known an entire nursing staff scheduled for an operation to simply sit around the rest of the day doing nothing when the surgery gets cancelled.
Complete and utter bollocks again.china said:
It is illegal to roster in sick leave ahead of time since it is "sick leave" and for use only when one is sick. Further if it is found that employees are taking sick leave when they are not sick they face a range of consequences including reprimand, loss of wages and loss of job.
If you can actually document a SINGLE case where a nurse has rostered in sick leave "several months in advance" and has not faced disciplinary action for it, I'll buy you your first IP.
Yes what selfish *******s we in Australia are where we believe universal and free health care should be a right. How dare those who can't afford to pay their own way expect medical treatment?!?! Let them rot in the gutter! Health care should only be for the privileged ones who can pay for it themselves after all right?
I think China's portrayal of the nursing profession is about as accurate as Grey's Anatomy's portrayal of the medical profession as a whole.
ANF is hardly an over the top militant union (they don't want to be and don't need tp be when they don't lose members).
They blow a lot of hot air come enterprise bargaining time but probably achieve little more than if they weren't around. Much of the nurse ratio stuff is scare mongering.
You just have to look at other areas in the public system and you'd die at the amount of people employed to do much the same thing they did years ago, with the unions having nothing to do with appointments (I'd go as far as saying we are over servicing in some areas
).
There is definitely NOT a big union influence in the public hospital system (unless you consider the Labor gov a union) regardless of how it looks. It's more a case of government approving more and more positions -in the wrong places- higher up the ranks.
On the subject of Ramsey... my FIL is a private patient in a public hospital atm, because his doctor thought (as I did) it might be best, and the place has been nothing short of fantastic.
Public hospitals deal with more complex issues, where as private will move you on if you're not 'viable' or don't fit into their business model.
china, what is your real life experience with the medical field?
They blow a lot of hot air come enterprise bargaining time but probably achieve little more than if they weren't around. Much of the nurse ratio stuff is scare mongering.
You just have to look at other areas in the public system and you'd die at the amount of people employed to do much the same thing they did years ago, with the unions having nothing to do with appointments (I'd go as far as saying we are over servicing in some areas
).There is definitely NOT a big union influence in the public hospital system (unless you consider the Labor gov a union) regardless of how it looks. It's more a case of government approving more and more positions -in the wrong places- higher up the ranks.
On the subject of Ramsey... my FIL is a private patient in a public hospital atm, because his doctor thought (as I did) it might be best, and the place has been nothing short of fantastic.
Public hospitals deal with more complex issues, where as private will move you on if you're not 'viable' or don't fit into their business model.
china, what is your real life experience with the medical field?
He has top private cover but chose to go to a public hospital as a public patient because we thought he'd get better all round care/treatment (we thought the public hospital was better geared to provide that). The private hospital could have dealt with him but chances are it would not have been to our satisfaction. Public hospitals deal better with issues that turn complex, and his did.
Amongst one of many bureaucracies set up by the Australian government, there is a body called the productivity commission. They have issued countless reports regarding the problems with inefficiencies of the public hospital system.
http://www.pc.gov.au/projects/study/hospitals
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...bRKQij&sig=AHIEtbTlZYnsvE-FZRIK47aOfXXmdxDo9g
The final conclusion of all the bureaucratic babble is that productivity in our public hospitals leaves much to be improved.
As a general principle, I don't think debate on any issue should focus on the personal characteristics of the debater. The major strength of this forum is that it allows free exchange of views wherein you can either take it or leave it. Personal credentials or purported credentials are irrelevant.
No.
This goes to the credibility of what you are saying.
You have made some very serious accusations about nurses. Not one person has agreed with you.
Yet we have no idea whether you are a street cleaner, a street walker, or somebody who really does have knowledge.
You have really upset people in here. People are reporting your posts to the mods.
If you cannot establish your credentials you will not be allowed to say anything relating to medicine in this forum. That includes doctors wages- another thread which you took way off track.
Tread very carefully.
China, still waiting on any evidence that nurses schedule sick leave "many months in advance".
One free IP of your choice up for grabs if you can back that claim up.
ETA: And geoffw has it spot on. You have made insulting and disparaging remarks that are offensive to many and appear to be grounded in nothing but your own fantasies. What credentials you have for making such claims goes directly to your credibility.
One free IP of your choice up for grabs if you can back that claim up.
ETA: And geoffw has it spot on. You have made insulting and disparaging remarks that are offensive to many and appear to be grounded in nothing but your own fantasies. What credentials you have for making such claims goes directly to your credibility.
Productivity anywhere leaves much to be desired.
Nothing I can see in those reports (albeit a skim) lays the blame squarely on the nurses as you have done.
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