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Btw hombie,Someones castle is another mans rubbish.
Everyone has there different criterias when it comes down to a Ppor.
hombie,poster was referring to IP not Ppor BUT since you brought up Ppor,there are pockets and if i were to live in springvale,i'd go springvale north over berwick.
any suburb after Clayton South (Westall station) is not suitable for PPoR except Berwick.
The problem with the West is that most of the city is in the East. That means most facilities (good schools, good doctors, good playcenters, good public hospitals) and jobs are in the East. Beaches, hills and tourist spots everything in the East. If you have family and friends, chances are most of them will be living in the East.
What am coming towards is that you will have to travel to the East very frequently which means crossing the painful city traffic. So its ok to be in the West as long as you only goto job (CBD) from home and come back home (West).
Needless to say 90% of the Western suburbs are known for morbid crime and troublemakers have been cornered into the West. Both Coburg and Footscray have bad reputation, so it best for the OP to visit the areas and get opinions from the locals / local newspapers before proceeding.
The practicality and convenience of living in the East is simply unavoidable when you start researching on which area to buy.
I agree,any idea on the % of defaults on the higher end compared to the lower end?I agree but obviously more people prefer some castles than others. That demand impacts prices.
I was replying to rizzle who is looking for PPoR not the OP.
Fair enough
By the way, here is the latest report in outer South East suburbs. It seems the residential suburbs (Noble Park North, Endeavour Hills and Berwick) are leading the capital growth.
Noble Park North is at the top with a whopping 16.8 percent increase in a year. I know this suburb quite well, it is the school zone of SE with 5 big schools and colleges which is a lot for a suburb of its size.
Now we can see the outer South East suburbs moving, which is a great sign. Smart people are getting out of crowded and exorbitant inner city.
Funny post. So many 'facts' there.
Please do not pollute the forums with this dribble.
This thread is turning into Ali G... EAST MASSIVE vs WEST MASSIVE
Its not a dribble, please face the reality.
Employment - The major employment hubs except the CBD, all are in the East. Burwood - IT Zone, Ringwood and Chadstone - Retail hub, Dandenong/Bayswater/Clayton/Cheltenham - mechanical jobs, storage and trucking businesses.
Name any big employers in the Western suburbs ? except little bit of closing businesses around the West Gate bridge.
Good schools, Good TAFEs and Unis - All in the East
Greenery, beaches, hills, leafy suburbs, views - all East.
Extensive train, road, freeway and tram network - all East.
Govt's priority and upgrades - all East. Its a little known fact the govt serves the influential Eastern suburbs before the Western suburbs. e.g. see this example - http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/brighton-jumps-the-queue-as-death-trap-waits-20130207-2e1d0.html
Doncaster rail line will be built earlier than much more needed projects in the West, even though Doncaster has plenty of public transport. Because Doncaster is full of influential residents who can turn the tables around, if their 'nice to haves' are not delivered quickly.
Come from any perspective, East wins - hands down
Its not a dribble, please face the reality.
Employment - The major employment hubs except the CBD, all are in the East. Burwood - IT Zone, Ringwood and Chadstone - Retail hub, Dandenong/Bayswater/Clayton/Cheltenham - mechanical jobs, storage and trucking businesses.
Name any big employers in the Western suburbs ? except little bit of closing businesses around the West Gate bridge.
Good schools, Good TAFEs and Unis - All in the East
Greenery, beaches, hills, leafy suburbs, views - all East.
Extensive train, road, freeway and tram network - all East.
Govt's priority and upgrades - all East. Its a little known fact the govt serves the influential Eastern suburbs before the Western suburbs. e.g. see this example - http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/brighton-jumps-the-queue-as-death-trap-waits-20130207-2e1d0.html
Doncaster rail line will be built earlier than much more needed projects in the West, even though Doncaster has plenty of public transport. Because Doncaster is full of influential residents who can turn the tables around, if their 'nice to haves' are not delivered quickly.
Come from any perspective, East wins - hands down
hombie,poster was referring to IP not Ppor BUT since you brought up Ppor,there are pockets and if i were to live in springvale,i'd go springvale north over berwick.
For a PPOR, I would buy in the inner west/north before the outer south/east. The inner to middle ring eastern suburbs are nice but anything further out is very overrated IMO.
My limit would be roughly 15kms from the CBD for south/east and 7kms for west/north
My limit would be roughly 15kms from the CBD for south/east and 7kms for west/north