Asbestos

[landlubber]

I'm sure if one or more of the 20 people who die each year in Qld from asbestos related disease was you, or a family member you would have a different view....

No NM ....in fact the direct opposite. Here's my point. This whole asbestos issue risk has been so overstated that it's become "over emotionalised" and everybody has thrown common sense out the window.

You may like to read The Age link in my post #25 to see how "out of control" the situation is. Having found asbestos in a school, a decision is made to remove MANY truckloads of soil. The soil is replaced. THEN these wizards find out the REPLACEMENT soil is loaded with MORE and WORSE asbestos than the original soil. Now they intend to replace the soil AGAIN.

Now, the problem with asbestos is "dust" ...how much dust do you reckon this exercise has created AROUND THAT SCHOOL and in other areas. Not only that, we now have more asbestos at more locations that we had before. Where did they dump the first dirt? Where will they dump the new (worse) dirt? Will the same trucks be used....laden with micro-scopic asbestos dust...travelling through previously "clean" areas ??? Your area ?? etc etc

What's missing is some common sense.. like.. Was the asbestos causing any REAL problems where it was ? The article does not mention any . Asbestos is a problem, but the BEST thing you can do with it is identify it and don't disturb it. Seal it (paint) if possible. Our "persons in charge" seem to be intent on doing just the opposite.

Why do they do this ? Because the problem has been SO over stated and over emotionalised and hence everybody is "running scared" of the lawyers and common sense has "gone fishing". ...and also, another sector of the community has worked out they can play on this fear AND charge exorbitant sums of money for "asbestos removal services". etc etc.

Now I'm going to do something else. This case is closed for me.
LL

 

[Ausprop]

yeh think I may go grab a ciggie... good for ya.

 

[oneuppmanship]

yeh think I may go grab a ciggie... good for ya.

Now, THAT concerns me far moreso than Asbestos!!!

Appreciate the joke, , but that bloody vile habit affects everyone infinately more then Asbestos.

Peace.

 

[Muffinman]

Asbestos 'will kill 10% of carpenters'

Just last week a 25yr old Australia died of Asbestos Cancer due to his parents renovating their home when he was a child.
The same has happened to many other children even younger.
It's a known fact statistics are under-reported and the goverment have covered this up for years and continue to cover it up.
Do not be an idiot about asbestos it kills and there is no way to recover!



Asbestos 'will kill 10% of carpenters'

One-in-10 Australian carpenters born before 1950 will die of mesothelioma, according to results of a British study to be released in Melbourne on Tuesday night.

They will be among 30,000 Australians who will die from mesothelioma between 2000 and 2050.

Cancer research specialist Professor Julian Peto made the findings during research into the lifetime occupations of 600 mesothelioma patients and an analysis of international trends in mesothelioma mortality.

Prof Peto said the cause of mesothelioma was not restricted to the deadly blue asbestos, also known as crocidolite, but to brown asbestos (amosite) which was used in building products in Australia and Britain until the 1980s.

Brown asbestos was a major component in most asbestos cement sheeting and roofing used in the building industry.

"I think that is one of the things that's largely been missed in much of the discussion on mesothelioma," Prof Peto said.

"The use of these products was completely uncontrolled.

"Carpenters would chop it up with power saws without much concern at all.

"And this was after we became aware of the dangers of blue asbestos."

Prof Peto's research also revealed that Australia and the UK have the highest rates of mesothelioma in the world, with 600 cases per year in Australia and almost 2,000 in Britain, and figures are rising.

He said that 10 per cent of Australian carpenters born before 1950 were likely to die of asbestos-related cancers.

The rate for Australia and the UK is more than five times that of the United States, mainly because of different construction methods, Prof Peto said.

Prof Peto's research also questions why it was once believed that asbestos exposure below a certain threshold would be safe.

The professor was due to deliver the Miegunyah Public Lecture at Melbourne University on Tuesday night.

© 2008 AAP

Asbestos in the home can kill!

 

[Muffinman]

Landlubber I've become tired of the attitude!
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I stated many posts back that it is impossible to do a death count so give it a rest.

Asbestos is not about money, and no money can bring back the people who die every year from asbestos.
It is impossible to do a death count as the goverment covers it up. Maybe not millions but 140,000-200,000 per year die from asbestos, either way a link is not required to prove any thing.

It's disgusting you need to have stats on death counts when it's a known fact this problem has been hidden for years and still hidden.
The goverment pays people to hide these stats and continues to hide these stats in 2008

You speak of common sense some thing you are lacking when it comes to asbestos and knowledge about it.

landlubber=TXT book know all, with no actual experience but the internet allows such fools to post as if they are an expert...lol

If you have any morals you would quit posting about a subject you know nothing about!

 

[Norwester]

Bit dramatic there Muffinman........??

Listen and learn..........

I was up at Wittenoom last month........'tis gods own country.......'except for all the blue fibres.......

in the ashphalt
in the concrete
in the backyards
even in the cemetery.............

regardless of this and this........

Absolute tragedy........not CSR's fault....they just bought the company....

When someone has this sort of mess other than a few broken pieces of fibro in their backyard........well then they have a problem. Until then, IMHO it's just hysteria.....

ciao

Nor

 

[pudestcon]

10% of carpenters born before 1950 will die? Phew I'm glad I was born in 1952

Seriously though, it is a concern especially as I remember the things I did with asbestos sheet all the while blissfully unaware of what might be.

I wonder how many people exposed to this product have mentioned it to there Doctor to put on the medical file. It's on mine even though I know there is no cure at this stage.

Live every day as if it's your last because one day it will be.

Cheers,
Pud