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Actually, people drinking Roundup does occur. I will never forget a guy I looked after in hospital a few years ago. He had a fight with his wife & drank a cup of the stuff (from memory, he did it to get attention but he didn't want to kill himself). Sadly, it took 4 days to die. Luckily he was consious & was able to make some home movies for his young kids. A bit off topic, I know, but these type of Herbcide/ Organophospate overdoses (both accidental & intentional) do occur.Roundup? Hey, go and drink the stuff and I'm sure it will do real nasty things to you. Farm chemicals need to be assessed in real situations. No one is drinking or eating roundup.
Why do we sell our gas to China for a few cents a litre when I have a feeling we will need every last drop of it.
I don't know how much you looked into the whole permaculture issue last time I spoke of it but it just strikes me as a natural balance between man and nature, I do understand however that it won't feed folkes all over the world. I actually never considered the growth in food for ethanol as a buffer for food production if things go real bad.
Nitrogen fixing plants make lots of sense especially in regards to soil health which is really what agric. is all about(TC look into biochar very interesting indeed).
I spent much of October at a friends house in Nepal. They had a veggie patch right next to the neighours flat roof. Every morning the neighbours peed from their roof onto the veggies - they considered they were doing us a favour.Distasteful as it is, converting sewerage to fertilizer must happen one day.
In the meantime there could be a "Pee on a tree" campaign to save water and add nitrogen to your fruit tree.
I spent much of November at a friends house in Nepal. They had a veggie patch right next to the neighours flat roof. Every morning the neighbours peed from their roof onto the veggies - they considered they were doing us a favour.
And while trekking up to everest every toilet had a sign saying put the paper in a box - they wanted to keep the paper they used for burning seperate from the stuff they spread on their veggie patch.... didn't seem to affect the taste of the food.
It's a good thread. let it live but tidy it up a little.