Carbon tax
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I'm just wondering whether this will work like the ASX200. The Carbon500
. That is, when company 480 improves and reduces their CO2 emissions, will they then move out of the Carbon500, and company 501 move in. If Company 530 invests in a new production plant, and as a result increases CO2 output (as the business grows), will they move into the Carbon500.
Similar to ASX200 market capitalisation, but using CO2 emissions as a measure.
If the Carbon Tax is for real, and has the intention of reducing emissions, then companies that improve should be rewarded, and move out of the Carbon500.
No details from Gillard on how the Carbon500 will work. Kind of aims to limit business growth by default. Grow your business and employ more people, and you become a evil polluter and start paying the Carbon Tax.
I am just wary about what Julia has in mind when ABC 24 hours summarise that 'self funded retirees will receive same assistance as pensioners'? Is it a gigantic con when full self funded retirees do not qualify for govt pension anyway and if they use the same conditions to disqualify self funded retirees for the new govt assistance then self funded retirees will basically get nothing!
Does anyone has the details? Thanks to forumers about decoding the worth of the 3x increase in tax free threshold. I was deceived and my wariness about the Carbon Tax has been vindicated!
When Howard was around I received benefits. When Gilliard came in I lost benefits, received lots of taxes, Flood levy and now Carbon Tax.
Does anyone has the details? Thanks to forumers about decoding the worth of the 3x increase in tax free threshold. I was deceived and my wariness about the Carbon Tax has been vindicated!
When Howard was around I received benefits. When Gilliard came in I lost benefits, received lots of taxes, Flood levy and now Carbon Tax.
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Wrong. The GST moved to simplify the tax environment, by eliminating a number of obscure sales taxes.
While I don't agree that Man is contributing to "global warming" - hang on, is it "climate change" this week? - weather and climate ARE different.
Can't be bothered looking at these after your wacky conspiracy-theory-driven drivel in the "Future of Food" thread.
Gillard has always been a socialist and she is bringing a socialist policy to fruition
The crap that comes out of her mouth when she refers to carbon as (Carbon Pollution) Well Gillard without carbon we wouldnt have a planet
They have even done tests and increased carbon in growing plants and plants grow faster with increase in carbon so this might make us greener plant
This carbon tax is all about wealth distribution
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The crap that comes out of her mouth when she refers to carbon as (Carbon Pollution) Well Gillard without carbon we wouldnt have a planet
They have even done tests and increased carbon in growing plants and plants grow faster with increase in carbon so this might make us greener plant
This carbon tax is all about wealth distribution
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I'm just wondering whether this will work like the ASX200. The Carbon500
If Company 530 invests in a new production plant, and as a result increases CO2 output (as the business grows), will they move into the Carbon500.
Similar to ASX200 market capitalisation, but using CO2 emissions as a measure.
If the Carbon Tax is for real, and has the intention of reducing emissions, then companies that improve should be rewarded, and move out of the Carbon500.
No details from Gillard on how the Carbon500 will work. Kind of aims to limit business growth by default. Grow your business and employ more people, and you become a evil polluter and start paying the Carbon Tax.
If you were one of the 500 big polluters it seems to me that the best thing you could do is split your company into two smaller companies and then be below the threshold. Do they have a plan to prevent this?
Well of course you would
gosh even on a teeny weeny tiny scale ..our business has done this...as a tradie business if we go over $xx is turnover the QBSA makes us jumps major hoops...so we simply split into "ourbiz" and "ourbiz_wholesale"the next question is??? how do the Lib's recover from this?? Can they really cancel any carbon tax??
Given that Julia's tax reform's take effect from July 2012 and the next election is not until (at the latest) Nov 2013..can the Liberals change the tax scale back??
If they can't get tax from "the people" where does the money come from??
Given that Julia's tax reform's take effect from July 2012 and the next election is not until (at the latest) Nov 2013..can the Liberals change the tax scale back??
If they can't get tax from "the people" where does the money come from??
Have a look at the results from the polls from across the different states, surely Labor can see this is going to be the end of them if they continue with this.
Adelaide Now Poll
The Telegraphs Poll
The Herald Suns Poll
Courier Mails Poll
Perth Now's Poll
News.com.au Poll
Adelaide Now Poll
The Telegraphs Poll
The Herald Suns Poll
Courier Mails Poll
Perth Now's Poll
News.com.au Poll
Many workers who fall into the 'earning less than $20 000pa' bracket (and who, from next year, won't have to pay any tax on their earnings) are Mums working part-time to supplement their family's income - am I just being cynical in thinking that the next announcement will be a reduction, or atleast a freeze on Family Tax Benefits and child care rebates for these families to make up for the tax Mum now won't be paying?
I'd agree with the reduction in child care rebates and other things.
But the most worrying thing, is now that they have taken care and raised the lower tax rates under the cover of the Carbon Tax thereby hiding the most politically sensitive tax rises over time, you can all but be 100% guaranteed that at the next budget, or before the next election they will now raise the upper tax rates and lower tax bracket limits where rates kick in.
Taxing the "rich" more will be an easy political sell.
I would have hoped so initially as the Carbon Tax will hurt Australia, but given Labor has tied this Carbon Tax to the Income Tax reform, I just don't think it will be possible to wind back now. Imagine lowering the threshhold back from $18K and starting to tax 1million people again (unsellable and political suicide).
Oh well Somersofters. As we are the "greedy" rich landlords, be prepared to pay a whole lot more in tax the future to support the addtional 1million non-tax payers Labor has produced.
Australia is completely screwed through Labor incompetence.
The polls won't matter now. If this passes, and with it being tied to the Income Tax reform, then the damage would have been done before the next election.
Maybe all these people in these polls will think harder next time they decide to vote Labor and Green.
The frightening thing is given that they will know that they are finished in the 2013 election, and with the Greens having control of the senate as well, how much more damage they will try and rush in before the voters seal their fate.
Youre missing an important point. There are plenty of people who dont buy the typical Tony Abbott/Liberal hysteria and actually agree with the carbon tax.
Who are "all these people" you speak of?
Who are "all these people" you speak of?
Glad you used a famous line from a Labor politician. Without acknowledgement....tut ...tut...
Paul Keating in the senate 1996
Paul Keating: - I would forbid him going, prevent him going to the Senate - that unrepresentative swill over there where --
Paul Keating in the senate 1996
Paul Keating: - I would forbid him going, prevent him going to the Senate - that unrepresentative swill over there where --
Not according to the initial polls (which admittedly aren't highly accurate, but probably reasonably representative). And this carbon tax is another example of Labor hysteria, especially after their workchoices hysterics.
"All these people" probably refers to the people who voted for these clowns.
How is the carbon tax Labor hysteria?
All it is, is a needed $23 per tonne tax on the heaviest polluting companies/industries, with plenty of allowances and compensation. the only reason Crazy Tony is carrying on like a lunatic is because its Labor policy and implementation. And the Australian public is buying his madness hook, line and sinker. Whats that about sheep? (and penguins)
You're just buying the Liberal hysteria/scare tactics (as are most of the public, that's what its designed for). You guys sound a bit scared. Things will be alright.......promise....
All it is, is a needed $23 per tonne tax on the heaviest polluting companies/industries, with plenty of allowances and compensation. the only reason Crazy Tony is carrying on like a lunatic is because its Labor policy and implementation. And the Australian public is buying his madness hook, line and sinker. Whats that about sheep? (and penguins)
You're just buying the Liberal hysteria/scare tactics (as are most of the public, that's what its designed for). You guys sound a bit scared. Things will be alright.......promise....
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evand's right you know. It was Tony who suggested 'a simple tax on carbon' simply because it opposed Labor's ETS. Now Labor's doing this, he opposes it. It's all convenience for Abbott. He's just an anti-man with an anti-govt rhetoric and no substance as a leader and no interest in the future of the country.
So who is actually running the country he asks? I think the Libs are with the way they have the public on strings.
So who is actually running the country he asks? I think the Libs are with the way they have the public on strings.
I'm just wondering whether this will work like the ASX200. The Carbon500
If Company 530 invests in a new production plant, and as a result increases CO2 output (as the business grows), will they move into the Carbon500.
Similar to ASX200 market capitalisation, but using CO2 emissions as a measure.
If the Carbon Tax is for real, and has the intention of reducing emissions, then companies that improve should be rewarded, and move out of the Carbon500.
No details from Gillard on how the Carbon500 will work. Kind of aims to limit business growth by default. Grow your business and employ more people, and you become a evil polluter and start paying the Carbon Tax.
They say it will only be 500 companies but also built into the scheme, especially for big industrial users of fuel, are cuts to their existing fuel excise rebate. They will likely pay a carbon tax-equivalent through this price increase and it will be a double whammy to the top 500 as well.
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