Nick Xenophon on the carbon tax
Nick normally calls is straight without the spin & he doesn't agree with the government's Carbon Tax.
Nick normally calls is straight without the spin & he doesn't agree with the government's Carbon Tax.
Carbon tax
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seems like 40-45% increase - not exactly small......
great listen ... and partly what I've been saying. Get rid of the compo and money to voters (costly churn of money) and just introduce something that encourages research and investment in renewables - without - the inefficient punishment system.
Don't worry the UN won't even know we've passed this tax.
LOL. i get the joke, but the UN are actually behind it.
Going off topic a bit here, but did anyone else notice how awfully bad Labours first day out pitching the tax was covered by the media.
Not sure if it was due to the Labour media minders bungling or the media having a cheap jab. But this is what I saw on Monday, was a good laugh;
1. Julia holding some red headed baby out in the burbs and some random yobbo yelling out Great work on the carbon tax.
2. Wayne Swan in front of a dumpster truck. I had no idea what he said all I caught in the multiple shots of this I saw was Wayne swan going out of focus as the cameraman focused on the dumpster emptying the trash.
3. A 5 second snippet of Rudd talking in Mandarin.
4. Penny Wong getting the figures wrong ($18 Blillion) on talk back, being corrected by that toffy liberal guy ($21 billion) (who also apparently got the figure wrong ($25 billion apparently).
With friends like these the Greens have got to wonder who needs enemies
Not sure if it was due to the Labour media minders bungling or the media having a cheap jab. But this is what I saw on Monday, was a good laugh;
1. Julia holding some red headed baby out in the burbs and some random yobbo yelling out Great work on the carbon tax.
2. Wayne Swan in front of a dumpster truck. I had no idea what he said all I caught in the multiple shots of this I saw was Wayne swan going out of focus as the cameraman focused on the dumpster emptying the trash.
3. A 5 second snippet of Rudd talking in Mandarin.
4. Penny Wong getting the figures wrong ($18 Blillion) on talk back, being corrected by that toffy liberal guy ($21 billion) (who also apparently got the figure wrong ($25 billion apparently).
With friends like these the Greens have got to wonder who needs enemies
Actually a 22.5% increase on the retail price of electricity.
yes, at $23/t. funny how it's a close, round figure; being $23/t = 23% increase....
at $45/t it's more like the example you quoted.
Hopefully that is analgous to what the Australian people will do to him at the next election. I suspect it is.
Ummm, no...
At $45/tonne, the increase is 245/200 = a 22.5% increase.
At $23/tonne, it would be roughly half that, or circa 12% on average, except for WA where Colin Barnett reckoned yesterday it will be 13%.
on top of the 20% rise for the last quarter
That was just to play catch up for the previous decade when prices hardly moved at all. It obviously had nothing to do with carbon did it? And we still get dirty old coal to boot - another step and we get a far cleaner wind / gas hybrid solution reflecting the century we live in.
Lizzie, it's a bit rich for someone receiving a subsidy equal to around $400/tonne for the solar panels on their roof to complain about a $23/tonne carbon price for the rest of us.
Just sayin' - in the nicest possible way!
Keep it coming
Expensive electricity will make people switch to green. That's the whole point I thought of all this Warming hysteria. So why are you all complaining about rising electricity costs. We should all be happy that coal burning is becoming more expensive.Cheers
ah okay i get it.
sorry you mentioned $45/t and i assumed it was off that price.
cheers.
Keep it coming
Cheers
this cuts to the guts of it hey? to achieve carbon emissions reductions we need to lower our living standards. so the people with the prados with carbon neutral stickers on the back may need to get real and actually sell the car and walk. which really sucks if you have just built your house in the boonies. and sucks even more because when you voted labor you thought it was just everyone else that would suffer
Carbon Tax debate in Canberra 19 July
Lord Moncktons debate with Richard Dennis in Canberra on 19th July - Good news - ABC 1 & 24 plus Sky will broadcast live nationally next Tuesday.
Supporters for Richard Dennis have booked 120 persons . Price is $57
Canberra is a stronghold of CT and Greens. Lord Moncktons will be tested to give frank and fearless advice in the citadel of bureaucracy, currently handicapped 120-0.
Lord Moncktons debate with Richard Dennis in Canberra on 19th July - Good news - ABC 1 & 24 plus Sky will broadcast live nationally next Tuesday.
Supporters for Richard Dennis have booked 120 persons . Price is $57
Canberra is a stronghold of CT and Greens. Lord Moncktons will be tested to give frank and fearless advice in the citadel of bureaucracy, currently handicapped 120-0.
Canberra is a stronghold of CT and Greens. Lord Moncktons will be tested to give frank and fearless advice in the citadel of bureaucracy, currently handicapped 120-0.
And handicapped by thousands of peer reviewed papers on climate science and terabytes of data demonstrating exactly the opposite of what he says.
We rely on scientists to dispassionately and professionally research and develop everything from microwave ovens to quartz watches to the internet, yet when they turn their mind to climate, they all suddenly turn into left wing tree hugging hippies???
Even the Liberal party don't dispute the findings of contemporary climate science and bodies like the CSIRO, Bureau of Meteorology and pretty much every reputable scientific institution on the planet.
So I fail to see why a hereditary peer, with no qualifications in climate science and no evidence to support his case, should receive any special consideration in this thread or anywhere else.
And handicapped by thousands of peer reviewed papers on climate science and terabytes of data demonstrating exactly the opposite of what he says.
We rely on scientists to dispassionately and professionally research and develop everything from microwave ovens to quartz watches to the internet, yet when they turn their mind to climate, they all suddenly turn into left wing tree hugging hippies???
Even the Liberal party don't dispute the findings of contemporary climate science and bodies like the CSIRO, Bureau of Meteorology and pretty much every reputable scientific institution on the planet.
So I fail to see why a hereditary peer, with no qualifications in climate science and no evidence to support his case, should receive any special consideration in this thread or anywhere else.
Thanks for that HiE. Just to reaffirm, Lord Monckton has zero credibility, apart from with the calibre of Andrew Bolt's and Alan Jones's.
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