Recession likely in Australia

Dear All,

1. Today, the local "The Australian" newspapers has a front page headline, entitled, "RBA warns on bank guarantee as Reserve and Treasury at loggerheads". It was reported subsequently that:

a. "RESERVE Bank Governor Glenn Stevens is warning the Rudd Government its blanket guarantee of deposits is creating serious dislocation in the entire financial system and must be changed."

b. "The Government ignored the RBA's strongly voiced concerns about the impact of an unlimited guarantee scheme in its rush to announce a guarantee of all deposits in Australian deposit-taking institutions on October 12."

c. "The Government faces severe embarrassment that its emergency measures are now creating new problems, given that it refused to heed RBA advice at the time."

d. "The Australian heads of several investment banks wrote an unusually pointed letter to the Government last Friday, warning that their exclusion from the scheme was damaging their ability to lend to the corporate and mortgage market in Australia."

e. "The Government is belatedly considering the introduction of a new deposit cap of $5 million, but the RBA believes this may still be too high to avoid the dramatic shift that is occurring."

f. "The RBA is arguing that the current version of the guarantee is completely distorting the market, particularly the short-term money market. It suggests the Government risks the perverse consequence of making it harder rather than easier for many Australian companies to raise funds."

g. "The main problem is that so much money, particularly short-term money, is rushing out of any institution or security or cash management trust that is not guaranteed and being put into deposits that are."

h. "In many cases these are deposits worth many millions of dollars by large institutional investors, rather than the small retail depositors the Government wanted to reassure and protect."

i. "This is why the RBA wants the Government to urgently announce a dollar cap to the guarantee to prevent the situation from becoming worse."

j. "Despite the Government's assurances that it is working closely with the regulators on the global financial crisis, the argument has strained relations between the RBA and Canberra."

k. " Kevin Rudd said after the deposit scheme was announced that the Government was acting in accordance with the regulator's advice in this difficult time."

l. "Before the Government acted, Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull had suggested the planned guarantee on bank deposits should be increased to $100,000. But after dismissing this as unnecessary, the Government then went much further."

m. "At the same time, the Government's decision to guarantee all term wholesale borrowing by the banks -- while charging for the insurance -- is creating market havoc. This is because those who have access to wholesale money are rushing into the guaranteed institutions and their securities."

n. "The RBA is bluntly warning Treasury this trend will only accelerate unless the Government clarifies the situation as soon as possible."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,28124,24528503-643,00.html


2. Who, then, shall we believe and trust as being the proper and appropiate advice for the Australian to adopt and follow, in this case? RBA vis-a-vis the Australian Treasury?

3. So much, for Kevin Rudd and his ALP Federal Government's economic management record, to date.

4. It seems probable that the Australian Economy is likely to fall into an Official Recession in the immediate near future, sooner than expected, with such knee-jerk crisis-management style and the various repeated policy "reversals" in Australia, which are being presently undertaken by Kevin Rudd and his ALP Federal Govnerment.

5. Likewise, Michael Stutchbury, the Economics Editor, for the local "The Australian" newspapers, has similarly criticised Kevin Rudd over his A$10.4 Billion Economic Security Stimulus Package, as "Bad Politics".

6. Michael Stutchbury has ably and clearly argued that:

a. "The great bulk of the "economic security strategy" package won't improve Australia's economic security because that would require supply-side measures to improve productivity. Instead, it's a demand-side package that mostly will redistribute the economic adjustment."

b. "The global credit crunch has king hit the US, Europe and Japan into recession. Commodity prices have collapsed as the China boom comes off the boil."

c. "This leaves Australia exposed, because households have overconsumed and overgeared themselves to overinflated housing prices. National income has taken a hit and we have to tighten our belts."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24526672-5017771,00.html

7. For your comments and discussion, please.

8. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
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Dear All,

1. Today, the local "The Australian" newspapers has a front page headline, entitled, "RBA warns on bank guarantee as Reserve and Treasury at loggerheads". It was reported subsequently that:

a. "RESERVE Bank Governor Glenn Stevens is warning the Rudd Government its blanket guarantee of deposits is creating serious dislocation in the entire financial system and must be changed."

b. "The Government ignored the RBA's strongly voiced concerns about the impact of an unlimited guarantee scheme in its rush to announce a guarantee of all deposits in Australian deposit-taking institutions on October 12."

c. "The Government faces severe embarrassment that its emergency measures are now creating new problems, given that it refused to heed RBA advice at the time."

d. "The Australian heads of several investment banks wrote an unusually pointed letter to the Government last Friday, warning that their exclusion from the scheme was damaging their ability to lend to the corporate and mortgage market in Australia."

e. "The Government is belatedly considering the introduction of a new deposit cap of $5 million, but the RBA believes this may still be too high to avoid the dramatic shift that is occurring."

f. "The RBA is arguing that the current version of the guarantee is completely distorting the market, particularly the short-term money market. It suggests the Government risks the perverse consequence of making it harder rather than easier for many Australian companies to raise funds."

g. "The main problem is that so much money, particularly short-term money, is rushing out of any institution or security or cash management trust that is not guaranteed and being put into deposits that are."

h. "In many cases these are deposits worth many millions of dollars by large institutional investors, rather than the small retail depositors the Government wanted to reassure and protect."

i. "This is why the RBA wants the Government to urgently announce a dollar cap to the guarantee to prevent the situation from becoming worse."

Kenneth KOH
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Dear All,

1. It was further reported today over yahoo.news.sg that "Aussie mortgage fund set to freeze redemptions"

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/afp/200810...g-australia-housing-ch-fc10a48.html?printer=1

"SYDNEY (AFP) - - Australia's largest mortgage fund, Challenger Howard, is set to freeze investor redemptions following a rush of withdrawals sparked by the government's guarantee of bank deposits, a report said Tuesday.

The Australian Financial Review reported that the 2.9-billion-dollar (two billion US) fund would act imminently to prevent a flight of funds towards big banks, which have benefited from the guarantee unveiled nine days ago."

The fund could announce the block as early as Tuesday after Prime Minister Kevin Rudd guaranteed deposits for three years and also underwrote all wholesale term funding by Australian banks operating in international markets."

The move has had unexpected side effects, according to the newspaper, with major investors fleeing financial institutions not covered by the guarantees for the safety of major banks as the global credit crunch threatens the economy.

"Rational behaviour is rational behaviour -- people would always want a safe-as-possible product at the best possible interest rates," Richard Gilbert, head of the Investment and Financial Services Association told the paper.

Challenger Howard Mortgage Fund did not immediately return calls for comment."


2. Thus, it seems that the RBA has correctly anticipated the ground response, irrespective of the Australian Treasury's real reasons for its own conflicting policy stance.

3. Will this subsequently further lead to a mass capital flight run towards generating new deposits for the local big banks, at the expense of the various local private mortgage funds or/and foreign banks, in Australia?

4. For your further comments and discussion, please.

5. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
Dear All,

1. Interestingly, the RBA is reportedly still cautiously hopeful of achieving a soft landing for the Australian Economy in the immediate near future, without neccessarily falling into an official Recession, at this point in time.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20081021/tbs-australia-economy-0cd41eb.html

2. Perhaps, things ain't as bad for Australia, from the RBA Governor, Glenn Steven's perspective, after all, as many of us are presently anticipating.

3. For your further comments and discussion, please.

4. Thank you.

Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
Dear All,

1. Interestingly, the RBA is reportedly still cautiously hopeful of achieving a soft landing for the Australian Economy in the immediate near future, without neccessarily falling into an official Recession, at this point in time.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20081021/tbs-australia-economy-0cd41eb.html

2. Perhaps, things ain't as bad for Australia, from the RBA Governor, Glenn Steven's perspective, after all, as many of us are presently anticipating.

Kenneth KOH
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Dear All,

1. According to Shane Wright, Economics Editor for the local "West Australian" Newspapers, "Recession-proofing is a big ask".

a. "If Kevin Rudd’s $10.4 billion economic rescue package works and prevents an Australian recession it will be an extraordinary piece of public policy."

b. But it’s a big "IF", because not only is the Prime Minister and his Treasurer up against the worst tsunami of global economic events since the Great Depression, but its against a history of failed economic bailout packages."

c. "Recessions are things to be avoided at (almost) any cost."

d. "Kevin Rudd and Wayne Swan, along with Glenn Stevens and Co. at the Reserve Bank, have a chance to steer clear of a repeat."

e. " This pre-emptive strike, a combination of cash and deep rate cuts and confidence jaw-boning, appears at this stage the best option."

f. " If they get it right, millions of people (in Australia) may never realise just what they have been saved from."

g. " If they get it wrong (like George Bush and Alan Greenspan/Ben Bernanke), voters (in Australia), let alone history, will not be kind."


h. "One of the key differences between what’s been announced and what’s happened previously is the forewarning."

i. "Treasury officials are unusually confident about the package. That’s driven largely because for the first time ever they’ve got a very big warning of the economic bus about to drive over Australia. “We’ve never had six to nine months warning of what’s coming,” one official said.

j. "That’s why the issues surrounding what economic forecasts the Government used as the basis for its stimulus package are now effectively mute."

k. "Any forecasts thrown together at the moment will be extremely rubbery.
This is a package constructed on gut instinct."

l. "As another official said last week, it is a “judgment call” being made by the Government — and this official backs that call."

m. "The Reserve Bank has made its own judgment call. In previous recessions or downturns (most famously in 1990-91), it has acted too late."

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=9&ContentID=103650


2. For your further comments and discussion, please.

3. Thank you.

Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
Dear All,

1 More positive news and sentiments emerging, as follows:

a. " retiring National Australia Bank chief John Stewart, who said Australia has been "ahead of the game" and could avoid a recession."...."With any luck, we'll stave off a recession, (even if) it might feel like a recession," Mr Stewart said.

b. "The worst is behind us, says RBA" screamed the news headline in the Brisbane Times Newspaper today, not withstanding the fact that the local inflation has reached almost 5%,a 20 years new record level.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/articles/2008/10/21/1224351289113.html

2. Finally, some white light are now beginning to shine through as we approach the end of the tunnel.

Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
 
Hay Sunfish,

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Basically don't have much time to go to too many sites after scanning here and ADPOTD.....
 
Dear All,

1.The SMH Newspapers has reported this morning that "The Reserve Bank of Australia is forecasting economic growth to slow to 1.5 per cent for 2008 from 4.2 per cent last year."

http://news.smh.com.au/business/bank-survival-not-threatened-academic-20081024-588v.html


2. The RBA's previous growth forecast was 2.25% for 2008.

3. Consequently, it seems that the Australian Economy, has recently ( after the March 2008 Interest Rate Increase Implementation) been rapidly slowing down. It has indeed been slowing down faster than required for a planned soft landing by the Australian Economy, as previously envisaged or/and engineered by the RBA.

4. Hence the recent 0.25% Interest Rate cut in September 2008 and a further 1% Official Interest Rate Cut in October 2008.

5. In view of the present rapidly slowing down Australian Economy and the wider global financial crisis continuing to unfold itself further, we can expect the RBA to further cut its Official Interest Rate again in November 2008, as well as probably in December 2008 again.

6. The local financial markets is said to be presently factoring a 0.5%-0.75%pa. Official Interest Rate cut by the RBA, in November 2008.

7. This is not withstanding that the local inflation has recently reached its record high at about 5.0% pa.

8. Will the Australian economy likely to fall into a Recession by this December 2008 or/and by early 2009, as previously been projected by some market analysts?

9. For your further comments and discussion, please.

10. Thank you

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
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sounds kind of nasty! but i am hoping that companys lay off people, and the credit crises gets tighter, as i am in a position that i hope the interest rates drop to an all time low so that i may lock them in to an un seen before rate , this way instead of trying to come up with 10k per month i hope to have to only come up with 4k per month!
lock em in and see how the next 5 years go!
if other australians a doing it hard then the rates should keep falling, sorry for hoping for bad things on others but it could be my savior at the moment.
 
Dear All,

1. Interestingly, the RBA is reportedly still cautiously hopeful of achieving a soft landing for the Australian Economy in the immediate near future, without neccessarily falling into an official Recession, at this point in time.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20081021/tbs-australia-economy-0cd41eb.html

2. Perhaps, things ain't as bad for Australia, from the RBA Governor, Glenn Steven's perspective, after all, as many of us are presently anticipating.

Kenneth KOH
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Dear All

1. It was reported that

a. " The Prime Minister rejected the growing view that Australia will succumb to recession."... "It is his Government's resolve." (to prevent Australia from falling into a Recession).

b. "Based on our analysis within the Government, we have no information available to us which causes us to conclude other than that we will continue to generate positive economic growth in this country."

c. " For Australia down the track, much depends on China's outlook."

d. "Rudd was confident after speaking with the Chinese leaders."

e. " Ross Garnaut, drawing on his experience with China's economy, says: "China has a lot of options. Its strong surplus position means it can stage a big fiscal expansion. Premier Wen Jiabao and President Hu Jintao have talked about China's responsibility to the world to keep growth going. Instead of growing at 10-11per cent, China's growth might be more like 8 per cent. But that still means China would play a vital role in assisting Australia through the downturn."

f. ...it strains credibility to think that Australia may yet emerge as a survivor of the financial-induced recessions about to engulf much of the industrialised world. Yet it may happen.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24477542-12250,00.html

2. For your further comments and discussion, please.

3. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
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a. " The Prime Minister rejected the growing view that Australia will succumb to recession."... "It is his Government's resolve." (to prevent Australia from falling into a Recession).

b. "Based on our analysis within the Government, we have no information available to us which causes us to conclude other than that we will continue to generate positive economic growth in this country."

c. " For Australia down the track, much depends on China's outlook."
Kenneth KOH
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Dear All,

1. It was recently reported that:

a. "Achieving a soft landing is basic to Labor's economic credentials and its political success."

b. "Make no mistake, Rudd's message is that he will take whatever action is needed to avoid a recession."

c. "Recession we don't have to have"

d. "THIS is the Rudd Government's scramble towards audacity. It is about preventing Australia from sinking into recession and saving Labor's political credentials and economic reputation."

e. "The economic security package is about timing, psychology and risk. The timing is imminent, the psychology is spend, and risk has moved from inflation to recession."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24497984-12250,00.html

2. Thus, IF the RBA and Rudd Government's words can be believed or/and are indeed accurate and reliable to a certain extent, then Australia needs not neccessarily fall into an Recession in the immediate near future.

3. A soft landing for the Australian Economy is still possible, though presently, it may seem "unlikely" and "im-probable" to many Australians, at this point in time.

4. For your further comments and discussion, please.

5. Thank you.

regards,
Kenneth KOH
 
Kenneth

I actually believe that we won't see a recession because gov. measures will prevent it. They are spending a lot of money to avoid it.

At the same time we had drastic interest rate cuts and this is an additional boost to people's ability to spend.

Until recently our bank balance was going down so we were reluctant to spend money. This situation would not be uncommon in Sydney (which had it's slowdown before other cities) but also in other states.

In our household we have been tightening our belts for nearly 12 month but now its all different, our rental income had a good boost, we've got a good pay rise, a big interest rate relief and even petrol prices are coming down so we are going to the shops and are buying those things we wanted to have for a while.

It's also a beautiful sunny day today so things are looking up...:)
 
Yes i just cant see how people will be looking to purchase anything let alone property when more and more people in finance are telling us we are on a downhill slope. This in itself will be enough to send us downhill fast..i am not an expert in economics but you would have to think the chance of a recession increases as the situation in Asia unravels...
 
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