You don't work for Tom Waterhouse do you?
No, just highlighting that it is a very fluid situation (certainly in the eyes of bookmakers trying to cover their butts).
There must be some serious money changing hands on this....
ALP Doomed but how many seats will they get?
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No, just highlighting that it is a very fluid situation (certainly in the eyes of bookmakers trying to cover their butts).
There must be some serious money changing hands on this....
Yep.
It's quite a thought though.....
a bloated, dreadlocked Kevin Rudd, with his pasty skin and (I hate those f***king) glasses..... knocking about in Blundstones and homemade tie-died threads.... lamenting and pondering the lost opportunities of his (relative) youth, while listening to Bob Marley on his i-phone.... with a steak and cheese in one hand.... and a doobie in the other...
I think he'll run....
It's his last realistic shot at being PM - even if it will almost certainly only be for a matter of weeks.
(Good pie shop in Nimbin btw. Good art gallery too)
As I said, why change it, it works. New system?? who knows??? Peter
maybe then China can turn a blind eye while Indonesia invades us, like we turned a blind eye to when Indonesia invaded West Papua in the 60s - 7 days after declaring independance.
If Kev does take over from Julia for the next election, can you imagine the fun the Libs can have with their election campaign? The election adds will be chocka with all the labor blokes venting after they booted him out last time, saying how Kev was a control freak and was unable to delegate and was a lunatic? Should be funny?
See ya's.
See ya's.
You have to pity at about 4 in the morning when 'Tim,goes out to see the latest news on what's happening before he wakes miss Gillard up no one ever looks at it from his side,but Mr Rudd is running out of time and he has no hope ..
I'm sure some of the ALP would have it at the back of their minds that if Rudd did take over, that 50/50 2 pp polling that is showing now would only be temporary and instead could slip right back after a few weeks of resignations, undermining by the Gillard camp and reminders by the coalition of Rudds failed policies.
Then all they have are a few extra seats but an equally disfunctional PM who at some stage they'll need to knife all over again.
They are between a rock and a hard place because there are no good people in the party to take over, and there probably won't be for a long, long time.
Then all they have are a few extra seats but an equally disfunctional PM who at some stage they'll need to knife all over again.
They are between a rock and a hard place because there are no good people in the party to take over, and there probably won't be for a long, long time.
weg its beginning to sound like a bad soap opera, but of course its more serious because its reality.
wonder what the ending will be? there has been a lot of damage so far. gillard does not seem to have an exit plan. its ugly but fascinating at the same time.
some bizarre things being said...the blue tie and women will be banished etc.
now there are reports chloe bryce was associated in some way with the women for gillard thing? wonder if her mother has assisted? you could not make some of this stuff up.
the country deserves much better.
wonder what the ending will be? there has been a lot of damage so far. gillard does not seem to have an exit plan. its ugly but fascinating at the same time.
some bizarre things being said...the blue tie and women will be banished etc.
now there are reports chloe bryce was associated in some way with the women for gillard thing? wonder if her mother has assisted? you could not make some of this stuff up.
the country deserves much better.
It's a rare thing for a federal political leader to voluntarily choose his or her time of exit (it's happened a bit in state politics - Beattie, Bracks, Carr, etc - but federally it is very rare).
Indeed, I don't think it has been done since Menzies stepped down in the mid 1960's (Harold Holt became PM).
Since then:
- Holt - missing, presumed drowned (McEwan [Nat Party] was a temp PM until the Liberals elected a replacement)
- Gorton - resigned as PM after being challenged by Billy McMahon (vote tied, Gorton decided it was untenable and resigned)
- McMahon - flogged by Whitlam in 1972
- Whitlam - outmaneuvered by Fraser in 1975 (and then flogged in the election)
- Fraser - lost to Hawke
- Hawke - knifed by Keating
- Keating - flogged by Howard
- Howard - flogged by Rudd
- Rudd - knifed by Gillard
- Gillard - ???
Gillard - massacred by Abbott
Hehe.
According to John Edward's (Keating's former Chief Economic Adviser) book on Keating ("Confessions of a Bleeding Heart"), Paul Keating did seriously consider resigning as PM 6 months before the 1996 election in favour of Kim Beazley.
Edwards says that what stopped Keating from doing so (ego aside) was that an ALP victory was considered so unlikely that he thought it best to stay on as PM, so that Beazley could avoid the stigma and embarrassment of being a just defeated PM in parliament.
If Keating had won the 1996 election he would have stepped down in favour of Beazley during the first term (or so the book claims).
I do believe this is Rudd's last shot at The Lodge.
Australia hasn't had a one-term government in decades (before you all say - what about Gough?! Gough Whitlam was actually a two-term PM as there was a double-dissolution election in 1974) - so if history is any indication Rudd will have to wait another 6 years (all the while surviving challenges from within the ALP) to hopefully stand a chance in the 2019 (or so) election.
With the help of a few hand-grenades thrown by Rudd (a bit of "friendly fire").
He's almost a political suicide-bomber....
According to John Edward's (Keating's former Chief Economic Adviser) book on Keating ("Confessions of a Bleeding Heart"), Paul Keating did seriously consider resigning as PM 6 months before the 1996 election in favour of Kim Beazley.
Edwards says that what stopped Keating from doing so (ego aside) was that an ALP victory was considered so unlikely that he thought it best to stay on as PM, so that Beazley could avoid the stigma and embarrassment of being a just defeated PM in parliament.
If Keating had won the 1996 election he would have stepped down in favour of Beazley during the first term (or so the book claims).
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I do believe this is Rudd's last shot at The Lodge.
Australia hasn't had a one-term government in decades (before you all say - what about Gough?! Gough Whitlam was actually a two-term PM as there was a double-dissolution election in 1974) - so if history is any indication Rudd will have to wait another 6 years (all the while surviving challenges from within the ALP) to hopefully stand a chance in the 2019 (or so) election.
With the help of a few hand-grenades thrown by Rudd (a bit of "friendly fire").
He's almost a political suicide-bomber....
Sounds like the exact opposite of our soon-to-be-vanquished PM.
Massacred by herself. Abbott hasnt got to do anything.
She will go down in history.
