Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
And a lot of us have been in unions...and still don't like them.
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Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Food for thought;Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Even the current Prime Minister has been implicated in Union corruption!
@bayview yes I no what you mean I would be the same if I owned a business. But I'm at the opposite end of the scale where I work on the biggest job in the country for companies who make millions of dollars of profit every year. Unions are the reason we get looked after at work.Food for thought;
If all these things were to go;
The Employer Super Guarantee (about to go up),
11 paid sick days per year
4 weeks paid annual leave per year (my wife gets 6 weeks)
Penalty rates
Worcare premuims
Payroll tax (not me personally, but you get the idea)
Redundancy pay
Severance pay
Long service leave
Long service leave pay
Paid maternity leave
Parental leave
Change of shift allowances
Forced permanent employment (as opposed to casual)......
I could afford to pay for almost 2 more staff - that's double what I currently have....and that's in a climate of a business not travelling that well. We are still making money, but it's definitely not beer and skittles.
Now whining - just stating the climate
If it was going great; certainly more employees would be at our place - everyone's place..
I get blokes coming to me on a weekly basis asking for Mechanic apprenticeships....sorry boys.
Meanwhile, folk are buying car parts and tyres etc from O/S on Ebay etc, thus guaranteeing more jobs are gone.
Imagine the scale when you talk about companies such as GMH and Ford, who have collectively axed several hundreds jobs in the last 12 months.
Other car part companies have closed their doors forever.
I'm not saying get rid of Unions; just that they the Unions need to take all of these sorts of current world factors on board before they act, and I really believe what we have achieved for our workers is now coming back to bite them because of the Global Economy.
People would argue we need sick leave; we don't - get your own loss of income insurance - it's tax deductible.
People would argue we need long service leave - we absolutely don't. You get rewarded for working a long time by having a job and getting paid every week, and getting promotions.
People would argue we need the super guarantee - we don't - save for your own bloody retirement.
People would argue we need paid holidays (don't even start me on loading) - we don't - why should you get paid for not working?
People would argue we need paid public holidays - we don't - it's another junket from the good old days but the world has changed.
Meanwhile, staff pull sickies they don't need, start late and finish early, steal stuff, work too slow and are unproductive, etc.
The combined sum is less jobs, and less jobs.
Workers and Unions need a bloody good wake up call, and the Global Economy is giving it to them.
They need this to take over from manufacturing and the PS, and to a lesser extent mining and building - can't take childcare and aged care offshore!
wanna bet ..... , some interesting unintended consequences of the NBN due soon , maybe
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If your job (Company operation) could be done OS, would there still be a job for you here?@bayview yes I no what you mean I would be the same if I owned a business. But I'm at the opposite end of the scale where I work on the biggest job in the country for companies who make millions of dollars of profit every year. Unions are the reason we get looked after at work.
Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Unions are good. Without them we wouldn't have what we have today. A lot of people on this thread have no idea.
Must be a different Country to Aus...I'm yet to see one work past about 3, and forget a worksite being open if there's a public holiday within a bull's roar of a normal weekend so they can shuffle in another day off for a long weekend.70k to shovel dirt? my bricklayers labourer is on $220 net per day and bricklayer makes 80-100k a year and works 6:30am start finish 4pm 6 days a week.
Must be a different Country to Aus...I'm yet to see one work past about 3, and forget a worksite being open if there's a public holiday within a bull's roar of a normal weekend so they can shuffle in another day off for a long weekend.
Try getting some bricks laid on a Fri afternoon ahead of a long weekend...even after knockoff on Thurs, for that matter.
They (tradies) are the kings of doing little, and the first to whinge when the work dries up..
Must be a different Country to Aus...I'm yet to see one work past about 3, and forget a worksite being open if there's a public holiday within a bull's roar of a normal weekend so they can shuffle in another day off for a long weekend.
Try getting some bricks laid on a Fri afternoon ahead of a long weekend...even after knockoff on Thurs, for that matter.
They (tradies) are the kings of doing little, and the first to whinge when the work dries up..
Operative word being "some".Rubbish. There are some fantastic tradies out there, they arent all lazy and overpaid. Ive had work done ahead of a long weekend and most trades I use work after 4.
Without a lie my bricklayer and his team work like that 6 days a week, does not matter friday or monday hard workers.
Plus the actual business owner/layer stays back when the labourer goes home to set up scaffold for next days work and cleans the site up, amazing team.
paid hourly or per brick laid ??
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per brick laid they lay around 1500 a day.