I said:
Also the cheap houses tend to be much crappier than anything you can rent. If you rent a crappy house you can get a HIA order on it and get the rent down to $50 a week and not have to maintain it, so why buy?
A $25k house these days is totally unlivable. You'd need to add things like kitchen, floors, reroof, bathroom, water connections, windows etc before you can move in - tens of thousands of dollars. Then you have rates, maintainence, insurance etc etc.
You can rent the house next door for $50pw.
So unless you have lots of spare money for fixing up, which people who are looking in the ultra cheap range tend not to have, why buy?
Oh and for something that is unlivable in a bad area you need a very, very hefty deposit too, and since you can't move in quickly as a general rule you can't get the FHOG on the real cheapies.
On the other hand, a $60k house can be perfectly habitable, in this price range, why rent?
I'm talking as a regular joe here not someone like Nathan who is looking at these places to maximise the rental on them. Regular joes won't touch the cheap fixer-uppers with a bargepole even if they'll triple in value with some minor work, as they get pegged as 'too hard'. The real cheap fixer-uppers are all over the place but are usually so far from civilisation that people with spare money aren't willing to travel to spend a few weeks/months fixing them up, and the locals don't go near them. I should know, I bought one, and every single local who I've talked to went "you bought THAT house? Why? It needs so much work!" and then they walk into it and almost pass out because it is now so unrecognisably
nice.
The house I bought was priced at roughly 1/4 of what the place is worth now and it is *not* in a bad area. The house I bought 6 years ago was unlivable and in a bad area, and I spent $40,000 on it - couldn't have done that on the local wage.
And yes, I am currently watching two cheap fixer uppers, one is priced right and one is about 50% overpriced. Both with mind to restore and resell/rent out. I'll be putting an offer of 52% under asking on the second one if I can find some sucker to sell my old house to, and if the guy (apparently a totally desperate vendor) says no, there'll be others
It really depends on your mindset - investor vs OO.