It really depends on who you marry and whether you are both compatible for the long run and will still share the same goals/dreams/values and interests after 10+ years.
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It really depends on who you marry and whether you are both compatible for the long run and will still share the same goals/dreams/values and interests after 10+ years.
I agree with you 100% Hi Equity, Marriage isn't and should never be about money, even through divorce.
People that go for 50% of everything disgust me, and yes statistics point at divorce for most couples these days, but if you've made that commitment surely there was something in the first place, right?
When i marry, whether i have more than the guy or less, i wouldn't sign a pre-nup, nor would i ask for one, after all in the end, It's only money, you can make more, but love can sometimes never be achieved for some, or happen again.
Risks are apart of life..
Dont confuse with what "should be" and "is" in real life.
If money did not interest you so much, you would not be on this forum right now. So please dont tell me if you busted your hump for 10-15 years acquiring IPs and then got married to some bloke who had zero to his name, you wouldn't sign a pre nup.
Yes, people that "legally rob" their partners through divorces are not nice people, but the world is full of them and under stress and hurt, many "normal and otherwise decent people can become nasty and downright immoral. You can never tell unles you experience it for yourself and judging from what other people have been through, its not a pretty picture.
That's like never getting insurance for any of your IPs... risky!
Nathan, the defining difference is this: I don't control who else is driving on the roads, or the weather. But I do control who I marry.
Making this analogy - that success or failure in a relationship is some random statistical event, not something that you have any control over - unfortunately betrays exactly the mentality which is more likely to lead to you being a statistic. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Those people who don't consider that relationship breakdown is an option, are far less likely to experience it. Yes, there is a possibility that one party will unilaterally decide to sever the relationship, but this seems to be the exception rather than the rule. Check out your partner thoroughly before committing - do they "cut and run" under pressure? Are they loyal? Do they communicate well? Do they expect the relationship to last forever? If you both think of relationships as a lottery, well, you'll be needing that pre-nup...
Heartiest congratulations, Steve, I hope it was an AWESOME day! I've bolded some words as I think too many people forget that this is precisely why there's a splitting of assets when they separate.
My parents: 43 years. My grandparents: 69 years. (Hopefully will make 70.
) And they still walk around holding hands - not just to stop each other from falling, either. We just went to a 20 year reunion this past weekend of hubby's uni class. Of the 40-odd couples we knew, there's been one divorce. If divorce isn't expected amongst your relatives and peers, if it's not something you consider "normal", then it's much less likely to happen to you.You are wise, Lil Skater!When i marry, whether i have more than the guy or less, i wouldn't sign a pre-nup, nor would i ask for one, after all in the end, It's only money, you can make more, but love can sometimes never be achieved for some, or happen again.
Risks are apart of life..
Precisely! In fact, it's worse than that... by presenting a pre-nup, you're saying "I don't expect this relationship to last, and if it doesn't, I want to ensure that you don't get any of the material rewards of our efforts". Yeah, that's a formula for relationship success!
True but obviously discussing your assets and IPs should be the last thing when meeting new people and even later on down the track.
The splashing whale gets the harpoon.
Actually I think the problem is that too many people don't openly discuss the important issues, like finance (which includes assests and IP's) thouroughly, openly and honestly enough, before they make the decision to get hitched. The problems arise when individual expectations about thing are not met and we all have different expectations because we all come with difference life experiences.
As I have said before, I think a pre-nup can be a good thing for some people. It forces them to examine some issues they may never have considered before.
I just this your pessimistic veiw of relationships is the wrong reason for a pre-nup and a better reason not to get married in the first place.
If you always expect the worst, you will always get the worst. If you think divorce is an option before you even get married (for me it is not - it is against all my personal beliefs and my religion) then your are not really giving things the best chance. You are undermining your effort at a marriage before you even begin, as you have already mentally allowed yourself an 'out' if things don't go the way you want them to.
Marriage is not always easy. It is rewarding, fulfilling, comforting and alot of other good things. But there are going to be times when (for whatever reason) you can no longer stand the person you are married to and you wonder what on earth you are doing together. Hopefully these times don't happen too often
but the thing about marriage is that no matter how you may feel like you need a 'break' you don't get one. Rather you are 'forced' to work out whatever issues you have and improve your relationship, because there is no other 'out'. Marriage is (or should be) a commitment for life. Of course you aren't going to get along all of the time, you are living out of each others pockets day after day after day - but that doesn't mean you should throw in the towel and give up.well that's todays sermon
Actually I think the problem is that too many people don't openly discuss the important issues, like finance (which includes assests and IP's) thouroughly, openly and honestly enough, before they make the decision to get hitched. The problems arise when individual expectations about thing are not met and we all have different expectations because we all come with difference life experiences.
As I have said before, I think a pre-nup can be a good thing for some people. It forces them to examine some issues they may never have considered before.
I just this your pessimistic veiw of relationships is the wrong reason for a pre-nup and a better reason not to get married in the first place.
If you always expect the worst, you will always get the worst. If you think divorce is an option before you even get married (for me it is not - it is against all my personal beliefs and my religion) then your are not really giving things the best chance. You are undermining your effort at a marriage before you even begin, as you have already mentally allowed yourself an 'out' if things don't go the way you want them to.
Marriage is not always easy. It is rewarding, fulfilling, comforting and alot of other good things. But there are going to be times when (for whatever reason) you can no longer stand the person you are married to and you wonder what on earth you are doing together. Hopefully these times don't happen too often
well that's todays sermon
I agree, well said!
Many things to consider...
Oh well, time will tell, cheers for the input
I get what you are saying, and yes, i have an interest in money, properties and all, BUT in saying that, money has no bearing on who i marry, and i'm not going to let it interfere with my relationship.
I know i sound like an immature love stricken teen, but the reality is i don't care about money (over relationships), you can always make more, and yep if some smuck rips me off by marrying for money, i'm gonna be angry sure, but it doesn't matter, that person was the love of my life, and i've lost him, in that situation i don't care about money, or getting even.
I can't explain it really well, i know i haven't made much sense, and yep you may think i'm being irrational or silly, but it's a personal choice after all, and my personal opinion is, if you plan on spending your life together, it's every aspect, and if things go pearshaped, i'll get through it, richer or poorer..
I get what you are saying, and yes, i have an interest in money, properties and all, BUT in saying that, money has no bearing on who i marry, and i'm not going to let it interfere with my relationship.
I know i sound like an immature love stricken teen, but the reality is i don't care about money (over relationships), you can always make more, and yep if some smuck rips me off by marrying for money, i'm gonna be angry sure, but it doesn't matter, that person was the love of my life, and i've lost him, in that situation i don't care about money, or getting even.
I can't explain it really well, i know i haven't made much sense, and yep you may think i'm being irrational or silly, but it's a personal choice after all, and my personal opinion is, if you plan on spending your life together, it's every aspect, and if things go pearshaped, i'll get through it, richer or poorer..
No, I get what you mean and you have good intentions, actually you sound lovely but I just dont like people like you getting burned...
How old are you btw?
I agree. In a perfect world we wouldn't have to be so concerned and protective of our things but it's not a pefect world. People should be honest and fair but when things turn sour some people can turn very bitter and revengeful and then the nice naive people get burned and ripped off. Each to their own however, some people are lucky (and don't say it's not luck, it's who you pick - some people change!) and others have to learn from their mistakes. I appreciate what some people are saying and I really wish you the best and hope you don't get taken advantage of.
Lol, thanks..
Haha, a woman never tells her age..So you first..?
Im above the age of consent
...I agree. In a perfect world we wouldn't have to be so concerned and protective of our things but it's not a pefect world. People should be honest and fair but when things turn sour some people can turn very bitter and revengeful and then the nice naive people get burned and ripped off. Each to their own however, some people are lucky (and don't say it's not luck, it's who you pick - some people change!) and others have to learn from their mistakes. I appreciate what some people are saying and I really wish you the best and hope you don't get taken advantage of.
Yeah exactly.
Oh well, you win some, you lose some. Most of the people on here are fairly cluey anyway so I guess that will always help weeding some dodgy customers
Im above the age of consent
So what..50..?
Just like to point out, that both my parents post on here quite regularily..
And any plans to pick up woman, or teens, on SS is greatly decreased, one from your approach, and two, your little link at the bottom of your posts..
Is this where you're getting your advice from..?
Barking up the wrong tree here..
So what..50..?
Just like to point out, that both my parents post on here quite regularily..
And any plans to pick up woman, or teens, on SS is greatly decreased, one from your approach, and two, your little link at the bottom of your posts..
Is this where you're getting your advice from..?
Barking up the wrong tree here..
Ok you post above makes you sound about 14...
Haha you do realise i've been on here for 4 years..
Just a little bit upset, called your bluff aye..?
Trust me, just because i'm young (not 14), don't mean i don't know how to make assumptions, and form opinions..
No matter my age, i can spot 'em from a mile away..
Just a little bit upset, called your bluff aye..?
Trust me, just because i'm young (not 14), don't mean i don't know how to make assumptions, and form opinions..
No matter my age, i can spot 'em from a mile away..
Haha you do realise i've been on here for 4 years..
Just a little bit upset, called your bluff aye..?
Trust me, just because i'm young (not 14), don't mean i don't know how to make assumptions, and form opinions..
No matter my age, i can spot 'em from a mile away..
Well I am double your age so stop hitting me!!
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Well I am double your age so stop hitting me!!
So what, you're around 40..ah close to my first estimate..
And if you mean me hitting on you, you're absolutely mad..
I have my interests, in topics, certain people, none of which is you..
But i understand your need to reverse the situation, so you don't feel so guttered, it's an insecure male thing (at times), so i'll excuse that..
So what, you're around 40..ah close to my first estimate..
And if you mean me hitting on you, you're absolutely mad..
I have my interests, in topics, certain people, none of which is you..
But i understand your need to reverse the situation, so you don't feel so guttered, it's an insecure male thing (at times), so i'll excuse that..
lol young kids are easily taunted.
No I am not even 30 so phew... not an old fart just yet!
Its ok relax, im messing with you...
lol young kids are easily taunted.
No I am not even 30 so phew... not an old fart just yet!
Its ok relax, im messing with you...
I'm no kid, darling..
I have a brain, and i'm going to use it, i'm not taunted, just putting you in your place, i don't appreciate it, and many wouldn't..
And for the record, if you're not yet 30 you're not double my age..not good at math..?
