UNTOLD: The Strangest Secret
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well, the story is that we were looking for a knock down near the beach and cbd of newcastle to rebuild a new ppor (currently we're about 1/2 hr from both).
we looked at an ideal property and i made an offer thru r/est agent. i drew some sketch plans up of our dream home to ensure it would fit, and also has a perfect spot for parking the boat - hard to get in this area.
anyhow,offer was rejected so i made a higher offer. never heard anything back so a week later i was peering over the fence at the property to see the lay of the trees etc - as one does when one is looking to buy - and the owner came out. we got talking and it turns out they had never received an offer!!
as the house had been on the market for 3 months with no offers they decided to refinance, take it off the market and stay. i gave them our number in case they changed their mind and we'd put the property in hubby's name as he had no dealing with the property or agent first time around - which will remove the obligation of paying commission. that was around a month ago. since then we found another block, i didn't feel it was as good as the first but would still met our needs. the second block is bigger but another 2 blocks back from the beach and 1/2 km further for the big kids to walk to school/bus/friends.
while watching the first part of the movie i started thinking about this first block - and within hours the owner called to ask if we were still interested, superb conditions (extended settlement to sell our own ppor and for plans to go thru council) and what's more, he dropped his price $35k from his initial asking price!! remember this is been a month since i spoke to them ... the timing was just to spooky.
we looked at an ideal property and i made an offer thru r/est agent. i drew some sketch plans up of our dream home to ensure it would fit, and also has a perfect spot for parking the boat - hard to get in this area.
anyhow,offer was rejected so i made a higher offer. never heard anything back so a week later i was peering over the fence at the property to see the lay of the trees etc - as one does when one is looking to buy - and the owner came out. we got talking and it turns out they had never received an offer!!
as the house had been on the market for 3 months with no offers they decided to refinance, take it off the market and stay. i gave them our number in case they changed their mind and we'd put the property in hubby's name as he had no dealing with the property or agent first time around - which will remove the obligation of paying commission. that was around a month ago. since then we found another block, i didn't feel it was as good as the first but would still met our needs. the second block is bigger but another 2 blocks back from the beach and 1/2 km further for the big kids to walk to school/bus/friends.
while watching the first part of the movie i started thinking about this first block - and within hours the owner called to ask if we were still interested, superb conditions (extended settlement to sell our own ppor and for plans to go thru council) and what's more, he dropped his price $35k from his initial asking price!!
remember this is been a month since i spoke to them ... the timing was just to spooky.
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we talked about bad r/est agents (as no offers were put thru to vendor) and i asked what the vendor actually needed in dollars and he muttered about a price then suddenly dropped it right down. we talked about settlement periods so that i could assure vendor that we were willing to compromise to suit them to find somewhere else to live with extended settlement (which acutally suits us even better, but wasn't telling vendor that).
we chatted for a while and then i said that hubby was away on business (which he was) and that i needed to talk to him first but would let them know our decision on monday. but for it to all happen only hours after i put it out to the universe .... go "the secret"!!
to top it off, i rang the r/est for the second block to find out that the vendors have decided to go to auction and that they will have an unrealistic reserve and 35 day settlement made the choice very easy.
hubby wants to now know if we can buy both and develop one of them with townhouses, which we can if everything else - like the sale of our current ppor - falls into place.
looks like i'll have to read parts 2-3 and put some more vibes out there for the ppor sale!!
pretty heady stuff - although i have always been a great believer in the universe providing what is truely desired for the right reasons.
we chatted for a while and then i said that hubby was away on business (which he was) and that i needed to talk to him first but would let them know our decision on monday. but for it to all happen only hours after i put it out to the universe .... go "the secret"!!
to top it off, i rang the r/est for the second block to find out that the vendors have decided to go to auction and that they will have an unrealistic reserve and 35 day settlement made the choice very easy.
hubby wants to now know if we can buy both and develop one of them with townhouses, which we can if everything else - like the sale of our current ppor - falls into place.
looks like i'll have to read parts 2-3 and put some more vibes out there for the ppor sale!!
pretty heady stuff - although i have always been a great believer in the universe providing what is truely desired for the right reasons.
Reminds me of a story when my wife received a Birthday present to go to a REIKI Session which she said was great.
Upon leaving the woman gave her a choice of choosing a card from a face down stack, the one she chose was "Financial Blessings come to me I happily accept them", this was placed on the fridge where it was visible every day and money issues and the new baby as well as plans for the future were talked about regularly.
Three Months later she had a win of sorts and received $25,000.00 and got to do what she wanted to as well (a Double Bonus).
Upon reflection the card came true..
Upon leaving the woman gave her a choice of choosing a card from a face down stack, the one she chose was "Financial Blessings come to me I happily accept them", this was placed on the fridge where it was visible every day and money issues and the new baby as well as plans for the future were talked about regularly.
Three Months later she had a win of sorts and received $25,000.00 and got to do what she wanted to as well (a Double Bonus).
Upon reflection the card came true..
Dear All,
1. I wonder if KARMA has a place with respect to the operation of the Laws of Attraction?
2. Care to share your own experiences and views on this topic.
3. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
1. I wonder if KARMA has a place with respect to the operation of the Laws of Attraction?
2. Care to share your own experiences and views on this topic.
3. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
wow that was quick!! ... i put something out there while watching the first 1/2 hour that had been on my mine for a while and - lo behold - merely hours later i got the phone call.
now where did i put that lottery ticket?
lizzie l just finished the 3 part series of The Secret and yours doesnt count.It was too quick
should take about a month.Umm second thoughts maybe you were putting out there in such a positive way and you hadnt realised it.
so back to the putting out there for you.Hope you found the lotto ticket
All up though well done l hope it all pans out well for you.
cheers yadreamin
wow that was quick!! ... i put something out there while watching the first 1/2 hour that had been on my mine for a while and - lo behold - merely hours later i got the phone call.
now where did i put that lottery ticket?
Based on Lizzies Post I put something out there on Friday along the lines of "The Millionaire Challenge" and got a $500 Bonus at work Monday (Okay, not a Month either but made me feel good nonetheless).
Hmm....Karma, Fate, Joss as well who knows
what i gathered from the movie was that there was no time expectation - the universe has no concept of size or time, so the size of your wish doesn't matter to the universe and it will be delivered in a timely manner when you are ready to receive ... i think i got that right.
ah well - an excuse to watch it again next week.
ah well - an excuse to watch it again next week.
I watched the movie (and thanks for posting it).
Interestingly Peter Spann writes about this concept in his book (the first one). Equally so have many others, in particular Napoleon Hill, Charles Haamel, Clement Stone.
I agree with the "if you really desire a specific outcome (and take congruent action) so you will achieve" concept (as oppose to a more passive inert approach of "think it and it will happen").
However I have difficulty in relating it to some things - does a person who is born with a disability have him/ herself to blame, or if a person dies from an illness is it because he/she did not fully commit to thinking about getting better.
Overall, I agree that it is better to live optimistically than pessimistically, but can it attract money, health ??
Notwithstanding the above, and being an optimist, I have now bought my Lotto ticket. (Thinks hard - $1m, $1m, $1m).
Good luck (and thanks again for the movie).
Tony
Interestingly Peter Spann writes about this concept in his book (the first one). Equally so have many others, in particular Napoleon Hill, Charles Haamel, Clement Stone.
I agree with the "if you really desire a specific outcome (and take congruent action) so you will achieve" concept (as oppose to a more passive inert approach of "think it and it will happen").
However I have difficulty in relating it to some things - does a person who is born with a disability have him/ herself to blame, or if a person dies from an illness is it because he/she did not fully commit to thinking about getting better.
Overall, I agree that it is better to live optimistically than pessimistically, but can it attract money, health ??
Notwithstanding the above, and being an optimist, I have now bought my Lotto ticket. (Thinks hard - $1m, $1m, $1m).
Good luck (and thanks again for the movie).
Tony
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Dear Tonyc00,
1. My own personal understanding is that the Laws of Attraction works together with the concept of KARMA. When we are born wth good KARMA, we will naturally attract the monies as the Universe has deemed us to be "worthy" and "deserving" of receiving its monies.
2. Secondly, we need to ask "selflessly" ( not "selfishly") for the monies from the Universe i.e the monies given by the Universe, is meant to be circulated to do good deeds and to build a better world for all to live. It is not meant to be hoarded selfishly for one's personal use or/and gratify one's greed/human desire, such as, trying to strike a lottery so that one does not have to work at all and afford to be lazy for the rest of his/her life.
3. Having said this, we do observe that some people, though with selfish intentions, will still strike lottery prizes, from time to time.
4. However, we will need to be extra careful in interpreting such cases and coming to a proper conclusion because of possible KARMA boomerang that one can and eventually will be re-born very poor in the next life as one could in fact, be actually and unknowingly "borrowing" and consuming all the good KARMA in advance during the present earthly life instead of awaiting for the Universe's blessings to come during the next life.
5. Examples of such kind of people would be those who have actually sold their souls to the devil, in return for monies to satisfy their own materialism and greed.
6. An interesting book to read would be Mary T Browne (2002) :"The Power of KARMA:- How to Understand Your Past and Shape Your Future".
7. Mary Browne, the author, claimed herself to be gifted with some psyhic abilities to read the Akashic records and able to "see"/know a person's present life destiny, to a certain extent.
8. For your kind update, please.
9. Thank you.
regards,
Kenneth KOH
i tried that tony - but went the $5mil (why sell yourself short). unfortunately it didn't work so i obviously wasn't "putting" it out to the universe hard enough. i need to dig out a $5mil monopoly money bill and pin it behind my lottery ticket - maybe that'll work.
actually - i need to take the word "maybe" out of the vocabulary. it "will" work.
five million, five million - picture it in my bank account - five million
Thanks Ken for your erudite and considered comments.
I will further my understanding on the topic and your comments by reading the book mentioned by you.
Hopefully I can then understand why people who deal in (hard) drugs or (child) pornography can benefit financially, and yet I would not consider such individuals as being "worthy" or "deserving" of receiving monies.
Such individuals, imho, would not have the appropriate KARMA in that his/ her actions are quite selfish, and not selfless.
Conversely a Mother Teresa could be considered as selfless and possessing (one would imagine) good KARMA and yet she presumably was not considered (by the cosmos) as being "worthy" or "deserving" of receiving monies.
Equally the concept of the "karma boomerang" sounds cruel if one were to assume that people born with cerebral palsy or a similar disability, or someone developing MS or a similar illness, had somehow inherited the condition because of bad KARMA in a previous life.
However, notwithstanding my scepticism, I do believe that there is some form of energy which we cannot yet explain. In that regard I support the Templeton Foundation (re John Templeton) for their funding of research in this matter.
Lizzie, thanks for the encouragement - incantation now begins - "$7m, $7m,
$7m", albeit remember that the quote by Carnegie "the man who dies thus rich dies disgraced" was intended to be genderless.
Best wishes to all.
Tony
I will further my understanding on the topic and your comments by reading the book mentioned by you.
Hopefully I can then understand why people who deal in (hard) drugs or (child) pornography can benefit financially, and yet I would not consider such individuals as being "worthy" or "deserving" of receiving monies.
Such individuals, imho, would not have the appropriate KARMA in that his/ her actions are quite selfish, and not selfless.
Conversely a Mother Teresa could be considered as selfless and possessing (one would imagine) good KARMA and yet she presumably was not considered (by the cosmos) as being "worthy" or "deserving" of receiving monies.
Equally the concept of the "karma boomerang" sounds cruel if one were to assume that people born with cerebral palsy or a similar disability, or someone developing MS or a similar illness, had somehow inherited the condition because of bad KARMA in a previous life.
However, notwithstanding my scepticism, I do believe that there is some form of energy which we cannot yet explain. In that regard I support the Templeton Foundation (re John Templeton) for their funding of research in this matter.
Lizzie, thanks for the encouragement - incantation now begins - "$7m, $7m,
$7m", albeit remember that the quote by Carnegie "the man who dies thus rich dies disgraced" was intended to be genderless.
Best wishes to all.
Tony
Dear Tonyc00,
1. Personally, I think you are too focussed on the $$ aspects of wealth/riches. There is another aspect of wealth i.e spiritual richness/wealth
2. If you speak to those drug pushers who made their monies trafficking drugs to hurt others, you will find that $$monies matters most of them.
3. Though they are $$ rich, yet they felt "empty" and " joyless" in their lives despite seemingly the y are much able to afford the many life comforts and materials things for themselves...Why? Because they fail to realise that they have allowed themselves to be "enslaved" to their own human desire/greed, which isd limitless and need to be continually satisfied.
4. Personally, I doubt they have the inner peace of heart to be enjoy their $$, as they have to be always on guard against the police and the laws/drug enforcement agencies, to freely and openly enjoy their $$.
5. Eventually, many of them die miserably, in poor spirit and poor health or a sudden painful death, when they continue to fail to repent and realise the wrong KARMA which they are creating for themselves in their next lives.
6. Have you ever heard about a "drug lord/pusher" who is well respected by all and deemed to be a great person?
7. ... Personally, I have not.... Drug lords like Khun Sa is well-known for his notoriety and ruthlessness, and not for his greatness as a person.
8. On the other hand, though Mother Theresa did not personally own much $$ in her own name, yet she was able to "attract" the big monies from all around the world to continously support her in her ministry work in caring for the poor and desitute in India.
9. Though without much $$ to her name, Mother Theresa was deemed to be a much blessed lady, who is worthy to be christened as a saint by the Roman Catholic Church.
10, Although she is no longer physically exist in this earthly world, Mother Theresa has left behind a beautiful legacy and a good name for herself:- her spirit of love, of caring for the poor and destitutes has continued to persist long after she has left the human world.
11. Future generations of people will continue to remember her and her work. They will always remember her for her great love and sacrifice in serving the poor.
12. Though dead, her spirit is fully alive and has continued to inspire many people in this present world. If this is not richness, then what do you call it then?
13. For your kind update and further comment/discussion, please.
14. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
1. Personally, I think you are too focussed on the $$ aspects of wealth/riches. There is another aspect of wealth i.e spiritual richness/wealth
2. If you speak to those drug pushers who made their monies trafficking drugs to hurt others, you will find that $$monies matters most of them.
3. Though they are $$ rich, yet they felt "empty" and " joyless" in their lives despite seemingly the y are much able to afford the many life comforts and materials things for themselves...Why? Because they fail to realise that they have allowed themselves to be "enslaved" to their own human desire/greed, which isd limitless and need to be continually satisfied.
4. Personally, I doubt they have the inner peace of heart to be enjoy their $$, as they have to be always on guard against the police and the laws/drug enforcement agencies, to freely and openly enjoy their $$.
5. Eventually, many of them die miserably, in poor spirit and poor health or a sudden painful death, when they continue to fail to repent and realise the wrong KARMA which they are creating for themselves in their next lives.
6. Have you ever heard about a "drug lord/pusher" who is well respected by all and deemed to be a great person?
7. ... Personally, I have not.... Drug lords like Khun Sa is well-known for his notoriety and ruthlessness, and not for his greatness as a person.
8. On the other hand, though Mother Theresa did not personally own much $$ in her own name, yet she was able to "attract" the big monies from all around the world to continously support her in her ministry work in caring for the poor and desitute in India.
9. Though without much $$ to her name, Mother Theresa was deemed to be a much blessed lady, who is worthy to be christened as a saint by the Roman Catholic Church.
10, Although she is no longer physically exist in this earthly world, Mother Theresa has left behind a beautiful legacy and a good name for herself:- her spirit of love, of caring for the poor and destitutes has continued to persist long after she has left the human world.
11. Future generations of people will continue to remember her and her work. They will always remember her for her great love and sacrifice in serving the poor.
12. Though dead, her spirit is fully alive and has continued to inspire many people in this present world. If this is not richness, then what do you call it then?
13. For your kind update and further comment/discussion, please.
14. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOH
Hi Tony
This quote below is pretty deep (to me at least...) and taken from the web and is one persons view only, it may help answer some of your questions and give some insight into The Secret;
Kenneths answer was great as welland certainly food for thought for me.
Quote:
DONT ask me to explain the above, I'm still trying to grasp it
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This quote below is pretty deep (to me at least...) and taken from the web and is one persons view only, it may help answer some of your questions and give some insight into The Secret;
Kenneths answer was great as welland certainly food for thought for me.
Quote:
DONT ask me to explain the above, I'm still trying to grasp it
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Dear Redwing,
1. On the basis of the subjective reality concept of human consciousness, it has been further suggested that what we are actually experiencing outside us in the real world i.e our external environment is a true/exact reflection of our own inner state of mind.
2. This is "deep" and "highly profound"... For the last 6 months, on and off, I have been thinking about this subject as I am still tryling to learn more about it so as to truly understand its insights and its direct application into my own life.
3. For your kind update and further comments/discussion, please.
4. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOh
1. On the basis of the subjective reality concept of human consciousness, it has been further suggested that what we are actually experiencing outside us in the real world i.e our external environment is a true/exact reflection of our own inner state of mind.
2. This is "deep" and "highly profound"... For the last 6 months, on and off, I have been thinking about this subject as I am still tryling to learn more about it so as to truly understand its insights and its direct application into my own life.
3. For your kind update and further comments/discussion, please.
4. Thank you.
Cheers,
Kenneth KOh
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