What unemployment?

[BayView]

Have you thought about having a drink somewhere other than The Club? Meet some on neutral turf and find out what they would need to change jobs? If they are working for a major dealership the money might not be easy to match but just a little independence and respect may work wonders. Just a thought.

Very true. I remember a few years ago seeing a study on job satisfaction amongst workers; it wasn't the money so much; it was recognition and praise for a job well done which was the no.1 motivator.

I am acutely aware of this human trait. It's not really much different to raising children I reckon; love, praise, recognition, interest etc. Even adults crave these things. I am a great believer in being friends with your staff; it brings out their best (if they have it).

I don't actually know any mechanics SF. There are none at the Club, and going to the Pub might be a good idea. Thanks for that.

I don't actually drink at the Club; I have to talk to the Members all day long, so I don't put my hand up for more punishment outside work hours My only concession is on a Wed as part of my weekly game in the Members' Comp with my playing partners.

I've checked out what the pay rates are in the industry, and I have no probs in matching and bettering what is on offer. A normal workshop mechanic is lucky to make $50k per year - usually less. Pretty ordinary.

Managers can be anywhere from $60 -$80k generally. Someone highly specialised in a particular area with experience etc may go up to around $90k, tops.

It is not a spectacularly well paid profession - unless you own your own business like my Vendor did. Last year he pulled in $250k for him self according to the Company tax return . And so he should; he's taking all the risks, and was working a full week as well.

But it's their chosen field, so they either put up with that all their lives (as many do) or they move on to something different and better.

This becomes harder and harder for people as they move through life; they get trapped in their lifestyle, debt mounts with cars and houses and just living, and all of a sudden they are 35 and scared to make a move.

 

[Piston Broke]

Manual Labor is a product, or these days a commodity like any other.
And the price behaves just like any other market, even though labor is a very regulated market.
At the moment demand is coming off it's highs after a boom, and most are not
recruiting but working out when & how much to reduce their staffing expenses.
As the supply base increases, prices fall and the demand side gets fussier as there is more "product" to choose from.


It is a very small % that is putting on new recruits. Current figures may soon seem like "the good ole days".

 

[Mooze]

Jobs market in Canberra is ridiculous. We had a position available, either a start out or degree qualified (dependent on attitude), quality of candidate was dreadful - via Seek.com.au, paper and agencies. Too many jobs still available in Canberra - previously there was consistently more jobs available than workers available in the city to fill them.

 

[bodybuilder]

Jobs market in Canberra is ridiculous. We had a position available, either a start out or degree qualified (dependent on attitude), quality of candidate was dreadful - via Seek.com.au, paper and agencies. Too many jobs still available in Canberra - previously there was consistently more jobs available than workers available in the city to fill them.

What was the position?

 

[bodybuilder]

I read today that 20% of 15-19yr olds who aren't at school/studying do not have jobs. There is 70,000 in total!!

 

[lizzie]

maybe some of them are just being to fussy. i know my eldest stepdaughter (who is at uni) considers herself above working at target, macdonalds etc. she obviously gets enough money with occasional babysitting to keep her happy as no one gives her any.

i was out walking the other day and noticed that the noddle shop is close late afternoons - with a sign in the window advising that it is due to a lack of staff.

there appears to be plenty of work if one is just prepared to do whatever is required.

 

[Mooze]

What was the position?

Position was in operations for managed funds and superannuation. Good pay, good lifestyle (7.5hr day, if that), yet people were either super over qualified but inexperienced (masters in finance or accounting with very little work experience, almost no full time office jobs) or were looking to make the jump out of whatever they were doing at the time (hospitality, retail, etc) but couldn't tell us why they wanted a job in finance (anything as long as it wasn't what they were doing at the time)

 

[BayView]

maybe some of them are just being to fussy. i know my eldest stepdaughter (who is at uni) considers herself above working at target, macdonalds etc.

Hey, don't worry...this same mentality is alive and well in the Good Ol U.S.of A, I can tell you.

Go into ANY franchise takeaway or dept store, or virtually any hospitality environment and you will NOT see a W.A.S.P teenager behind the counter or busking tables.

 

[DavidMc]

In looking for senior corporate accounting positions, we are finding each job is advertised with at least 6 different recruiters - so the actual number of ad's is quite deceiving.....

There are also many "baiting" ad's - ie. just to get you to send your resume, with no actual posiiton behind them.

Hmmm.... just got back from another recruiter interview with ad bait. To be fair to them I do think many companies 'kinda wanna hire', but are just too scared right now. Top level isn't signing off funding.

I know 5 recruiters are trying to fill a position that hasn't been approved yet...