Women Leaders in Politics - (I'm not Sexist)

[Ideo]

Why do you say that? When women make broad, sweeping generalisations about men, do you say 'Sounds like some broad who can't get a man?'

Yep. I do.

And I wouldn't say divorced. I would say backwards.

Maybe Saudi Arabia would be a better bet.

 

[VYBerlinaV8]

Why do you say that? When women make broad, sweeping generalisations about men, do you say 'Sounds like some broad who can't get a man?'

Reminds me of a woman I know who would tell all and sundry that "all men are *******s", but got extremely angry when I told her "all women are whores".

Generalisations like this are for the stupid and intellectually lazy.

 

[Ideo]

Reminds me of a woman I know who would tell all and sundry that "all men are *******s", but got extremely angry when I told her "all women are whores".

Generalisations like this are for the stupid and intellectually lazy.

Didn't you just generalise about people that make generalisations?

 

[pennyk]

PMSL What world do you live in?
They purposely dress and act sexy/slutty, post sexy/slutty pics on facebook for guys to look act.
They do it to boost their ego and get validation from the opposite sex and get "likes". Just as they do when they go to the clubs.
That's just the way it is. They do it in "general" and it does have consequences to society in general. Women just cry foul and make all these justifications to make themselves feel better.
I also have family/realitves friends etc it's no different, they are observations based on history.

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Honestly, I dont know what world you live in PB....
I have been to several shopping centres in various different parts of Sydney, both wealthy and poor areas.
I could count the number of slutty looking women on one hand.
A far more common sight was women wearing tracksuit pants and sloppy t-shirts and looking like they dont care at all about how they look.

Your view of women seems to be very warped...

 

[pennyk]

Completely forgot about this! Here you go:

'I'm not going to tell you not to drink, because I know you're going to and I'm not going to tell you not to chase women, because I know you're going to. Just don't do both at the same time.'

Thats good advice!!

My teenage son had surgery last week. Seeing his reaction to the sedatives and anaesthetic, I am feeling quite nervous about how he will behave if he gets into the wrong crowd. He was hysterically funny... so I can imagine him being the absolute life of the party, but then doing stupid things, like accepting dares and chatting up girls. Oh, we potentially have some fun times ahead.......

 

[pennyk]

Why do you say that? When women make broad, sweeping generalisations about men, do you say 'Sounds like some broad who can't get a man?'

I wouldnt necessarily say a divorced man, but Piston Broke's posts certainly indicate a very high level of bitterness towards women, which I think most likely comes from some relationship breakdown.

I have seen the same kind of comments from women who are bruised emotionally. "all men are hopeless... they never help around the house.... they are all womanisers etc". I wouldnt necessarily say that they couldnt get a man, but I would say that their attitude indicates hurt/ bitterness/ unforgiveness.
When I hear these sort of comments, I always try to give examples of good men that I know, to bring a balance to their bitterness, particularly where the comments come from someone who is having visitation issues with an ex. Kids need their fathers wherever possible... or a father figure, where its not possible.

 

[VYBerlinaV8]

Didn't you just generalise about people that make generalisations?

Absolutely, hence the qualifier 'like this'.

 

[Piston Broke]

I could count the number of slutty looking women on one hand.

Should I start posting pics?
And once again for the hard of seeing, I placed my comments in an historical context, pointing out that it has now become normal. "that's just how it is".
Sexualisation and masculinity of women is no longer a big deal because it's "normal".

Yep. I do.
And I wouldn't say divorced. I would say backwards.

Shoooooosh and do what she tells you.
Now be a good boy and wash the dishes, clean the house and the toilet and dont forget to take out the garbage. It's girls night out tonight.
And tomorrow clothes and makeup shopping, so dont use the credit card.

Sounds like you have 5 daughters...

 

[our obsession]

With the French election first rounds in, some interesting results, part of that being:

Far-rightist Marine Le Pen threw France's 2012 presidential race wide open by scoring nearly 20 per cent in the first round - votes that may determine the outcome of the May 6 run-off between Socialist favourite Francois Hollande and conservative president Nicolas Sarkozy.

Ms Le Pen has sought to transcend the bigoted image of the National Front she inherited from her firebrand father Jean-Marie.

The 43-year-old lawyer won between 18 and 20 per cent in the first round of voting, official estimates said, the highest ever score for her anti-immigrant, anti-European, far-right party.

This did not allow her to go through to the second round on May 6 - in which Mr Sarkozy squares off against Mr Hollande - but it puts her party in its strongest position yet.

"The battle of France has just begun," she declared after the estimates were released, adding "we have exploded the monopoly of the two parties"........... Ms Le Pen, a seasoned politician before she took over the party last year, is credited with offering a softer image of the party dominated by her father since he founded it in 1972 and tainted by his extremist outbursts.

But critics say she represents the same hard-right National Front in new clothes, playing on white voters' sensitivities over France's Muslim population, estimated at up to six million.

The twice-divorced mother of three was elected to local and regional council posts and in 2004 to the European parliament and also served as the National Front's legal head.

Analysts see her as part of a new age of far-right leaders across Europe seeking to shake off the fascist stigma of their predecessors.

"She embodies a new political generation in the National Front, which wants to modernise it and stop it seeming old-fashioned," said Nonna Mayer, a specialist on the far right at the Sciences-Po school in Paris.

That ABC article here:

Who is Marine Le Pen?



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[Belbo]

With the French election first rounds in, some interesting results,

Not quite, but this particular 20% almost tempts one to agree with Niall Ferguson about WWI.

 

[our obsession]

It kind of makes me torn between hindsight is a wonderful thing, and Shaw's:

'Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that we can never learn anything from history.'

....but I digress....

 

[Ideo]

Should I start posting pics?
And once again for the hard of seeing, I placed my comments in an historical context, pointing out that it has now become normal. "that's just how it is".
Sexualisation and masculinity of women is no longer a big deal because it's "normal".



Shoooooosh and do what she tells you.
Now be a good boy and wash the dishes, clean the house and the toilet and dont forget to take out the garbage. It's girls night out tonight.
And tomorrow clothes and makeup shopping, so dont use the credit card.

Sounds like you have 5 daughters...

I like cooking. I have a dishwasher. I get a cleaner. We have our own money and don't share a credit card. Don't project your own unhappiness onto me.