Australia's political middle ground?

Does anybody watch the Today show and see Gillard and Abbott on Friday mornings. She sure can talk, and just keeps on talking, and talking and talking.

Says nothing though :eek:. It is all spin. Just for once I would love to hear a polititian (ANY polititian) answer a question with truth and not spin and waffle.
 
wylie said:
Does anybody watch the Today show and see Gillard and Abbott on Friday mornings. She sure can talk, and just keeps on talking, and talking and talking.
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LOL! Yes, I have seen her and agree. It's all fluff, does she actually ever say anything?!
KRudd is the same, just waffles on without saying anything meaningful. Imagine the two of them in bed together, would be all foreplay and no real action! :)
 
they wouldnt get past working out if the other actually wanted to sleep with them or not..... let alone get as far ahead as foreplay.
 
wylie said:
Does anybody watch the Today show and see Gillard and Abbott on Friday mornings. She sure can talk, and just keeps on talking, and talking and talking.

Says nothing though :eek:. It is all spin. Just for once I would love to hear a polititian (ANY polititian) answer a question with truth and not spin and waffle.
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Hasn't Abbott done that a couple of times... and ended up shooting himself in the foot?

Although I did hear Hockey interviewed the other day, and Lyndal Curtis asked him a question that went on for about 45 seconds, and he answered, "No." That was it, no justification, no waffle - FANtastic!
 
Biggles said:
LOL! Yes, I have seen her and agree. It's all fluff, does she actually ever say anything?!
KRudd is the same, just waffles on without saying anything meaningful. Imagine the two of them in bed together, would be all foreplay and no real action! :)
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K.Rudd would unveil his stimulas package, withdraw his ETS, and ensure there was something left over for working families. :rolleyes:
 
Why do so many inner city types vote greens? Surely they are some of the highest educated and highest paid people in the land. In the 2007 federal election, inner city Sydney and Melbourne recorded over 20% primary votes for the greens. So why do they vote greens? Is it just trendy? I've even seen otherwise intelligent people on here say they vote green. Do people really understand green policies?
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It's called ideallism, dreamland. And yes; trendyism.

Many very highly educated people live their lives inside, looking at books and not getting out into the real world for a look around. You could argue the same thing about highly intelligent people believing in someone living up in the clouds, and a bloke who was dead for a few days in a cave and came back to life. Now, seriously.

People who work out doors - tradies, farmers, country folk, cops, fireys, ambo's and the like; in general are not your nutty, artsy, tree-hugging left. They are not fanatics or "emo's".

Country folk are down to earth. Inner-city types are not down to earth. How can anyone who chooses to live in concrete, noise, traffic, smog, lights, ridiculous fashions and wear knitted scarves (male and female) when it's not really cold be down to earth/realistic?

Country folk are more down to earth as a rule, and are not sucked into the latest trend of anything (except maybe a pair of moleskins, some RM Williams boots and an Akubra). They don't talk BS and don't carry on like [email protected] as a rule. They are not into keeping up with the Jones as a rule.

Proof of this is your country dude and dudess would not be seen dead in a cycadelic lycra riding outfit with matching clip-in shoes, helmet and riding gloves, riding around looking for a latte stand on a sunday, and are over 50 years old.

I'm all for saving whales and growing trees, but keep it all in perspective kids. The Greens would have us all living in caves.
 
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BayView said:
Proof of this is your country dude and dudess would not be seen dead in a cycadelic lycra riding outfit with matching clip-in shoes, helmet and riding gloves, riding around looking for a latte stand on a sunday, and are over 50 years old.
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Yes that is unfortunate. I know a large number of farmers around that age who could certainly benefit from spending a significant amount of time on a bicycle or other piece of fitness equipment. Country people are indeed the salt of the earth but IME aren't generally all that crash hot at keeping themselves fit and healthy. I think they are under the impression that because they live on the farm they are doing a heap of "manual work" when in reality these days they are generally just moving from one piece of powered equipment to the next...

They could certainly learn a thing or two from (some) city people in that respect, alongside manning up enough to wear psychedelic (!) lycra clothing... :)
 
HiEquity said:
They could certainly learn a thing or two from (some) city people in that respect, alongside manning up enough to wear psychedelic (!) lycra clothing... :)
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Manning up? I live in an area where there are many of them, and they look ridiculous! :p

Maybe country people have better things to do and really live life and don't need to worry about shallow things like how they look. :) I've never been on a farm, but imagine that it's far more labour intensive than a pen pusher in a city office.
 
Seems the latest polls say people are turning away from labor and the libs, and turning to the greens?...

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So, what's going on? If people are upset with some of Kevs crazy schemes, then the greens are surely a lot crazier.
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Don't panic, TC. People park their vote with the Greens in polls when they're not enamoured with either party. It usually doesn't mean they would actually vote Green when it came to the crunch.
 
Ausprop said:
you like to cycle HE? :)
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Indeed - to and from work every day. Not afraid to wear lycra either when it results in significantly improved comfort outcomes! :eek:

I guess I just know a lot of middle aged farmers who have never taken their own health very seriously and are paying the price for that now... :(

But apologies we are way OT so back to the thread!
 
Originally Posted by Sunfish
How many cartons of Coke can you carry on a bike?
No idea. Never touch the stuff. Beer on the other hand...
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Nor I but I always travel a dozen or so slabs in my van. Occasionally I even carry a Coke machine that weighs 300 kg. Each to his own.
 
BayView said:
It's called ideallism, dreamland. And yes; trendyism.

Many very highly educated people live their lives inside, looking at books and not getting out into the real world for a look around. You could argue the same thing about highly intelligent people believing in someone living up in the clouds, and a bloke who was dead for a few days in a cave and came back to life. Now, seriously.

People who work out doors - tradies, farmers, country folk, cops, fireys, ambo's and the like; in general are not your nutty, artsy, tree-hugging left. They are not fanatics or "emo's".

Country folk are down to earth. Inner-city types are not down to earth. How can anyone who chooses to live in concrete, noise, traffic, smog, lights, ridiculous fashions and wear knitted scarves (male and female) when it's not really cold be down to earth/realistic?

Country folk are more down to earth as a rule, and are not sucked into the latest trend of anything (except maybe a pair of moleskins, some RM Williams boots and an Akubra). They don't talk BS and don't carry on like [email protected] as a rule. They are not into keeping up with the Jones as a rule.

Proof of this is your country dude and dudess would not be seen dead in a cycadelic lycra riding outfit with matching clip-in shoes, helmet and riding gloves, riding around looking for a latte stand on a sunday, and are over 50 years old.

I'm all for saving whales and growing trees, but keep it all in perspective kids. The Greens would have us all living in caves.
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Country folk are the last bastion of socialism in Australia.

People think its in the universities but that's becuase they've never been to a National Party afternoon tea.
 
Token Funder said:
Country folk are the last bastion of socialism in Australia.

People think its in the universities but that's becuase they've never been to a National Party afternoon tea.
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"Protectionism" as preached by the landed class has nothing to do with "socialism" as preached by those who have their hand out. True! They both have the same goal in that everyone wants the rest of society to subsidise their lifestyle. That's what "democracy" is all about.

In it's purist form it is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
 
I wrote a post on another forum a few months ago explaining why cyclists wear lycra. can't be bothered finding it.

Fat 50 something blokes wear lycra because:

- the color helps motorists with poor eyesight see us that much sooner.

- the body hug lycra is to reduce wind resistance and wind noise....thus allowing us to hear cars coming from behind better.

- it also reduces chaffing on inside of thigh.

- lycra pants also don't get caught on the front stem of the seat when you have been straddling the bike at lights, then go to lift your butt onto the seat. boardies etc are notorious for this.

- when you put stuff in your tight jersey pockets, it doesn't rattle and shake around, and invariably fall out, like it does in a normal shirt or pant pocket.


Slim chicks wear lycra because they are trying to trade up :D
 
And now for the normal version of this:

WinstonWolfe said:
I wrote a post on another forum a few months ago explaining why cyclists wear lycra. can't be bothered finding it.

Fat 50 something blokes wear lycra because:

- the color helps motorists with poor eyesight see us that much sooner.
wear one of those bright yellow work shirts or jackets and have flashing lights on the bike front and rear. If you ride in single file instead of hogging the road in rows of two and three so you can all chat about the latest version of "Les Mis" it will be safer for you.

- the body hug lycra is to reduce wind resistance and wind noise....thus allowing us to hear cars coming from behind better. stop talking about the latest opera or cats production you went to and just shut up and ride.

- it also reduces chaffing on inside of thigh.lose weight by hardening up on the diet as well as the keep riding - stop dropping for lattes every 5 km's as you ride. Ride so hard you can't talk about the cats production becuase you're too stuffed to speak.

- lycra pants also don't get caught on the front stem of the seat when you have been straddling the bike at lights, then go to lift your butt onto the seat. boardies etc are notorious for this.I've never seen it as a prob.

- when you put stuff in your tight jersey pockets, it doesn't rattle and shake around, and invariably fall out, like it does in a normal shirt or pant pocket.you're out there for a ride; what "stuff" do you need? A bottle of water, a house key a phone in case you need one. That's what bum-bags were invented for.
But of course! you'll need money for a latte/s. I guess I could pass the jersey - just take off all the pro rider ads.


Slim chicks wear lycra because they are trying to trade up :D Chicks are exempt. The fact that they are out there at all is good enough for me. But any MALE over 50 who is not riding in a race of some sort - stop kidding yourself and wear "normal" stuff. You are not Lance, and you are not in the Tour De France.
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Of course; it is fun to get all dressed up and go out riding, so there you go. It's a bit like watching the skiiers on the snow in this regard. I keep looking for the downhill slalom gates that they are on, but alas; nowhere to be seen. :D
 
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