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[BayView]

The Fire Fighters are insulted by soft penalties for fire lighters. It should be treated as attempted homicide.
Peter

I've always thought the same - for adults.

But...in the case of kids - and I was one once - they don't understand the consequences of playing with fire too well.

When I was about 11, me and a few local boys got hold of some crackers, a lighter and a can of petrol.

We thought it was great laying trails of petrol with a penny-bunger at the end of it, lighting the petrol and waiting for the explosion. All harmless fun, right?

It all came unstuck when we went back to one of the boy's house (no parents at home) and laid a trail of petrol around the house.

One of the boys set fire to the trail too early, and it caught up to the boy holding the petrol can on the other side of the house and out of sight. He panicked, threw the can when it ignited and it landed on the side of the house.

Flames roaring up the paintwork on the wall in seconds.

Instant panic amongst 5 or 6 kids...

We grabbed the waterhose and eventually put out the fire, but it was a VERY close call; lots of burn marks on the weatherboard wall. Some kids were crying and shaking with fear.

So how do you combat that factor?

 

[Peter 14.7]

I've always thought the same - for adults.

But...in the case of kids - and I was one once - they don't understand the consequences of playing with fire too well.

When I was about 11, me and a few local boys got hold of some crackers, a lighter and a can of petrol.

We thought it was great laying trails of petrol with a penny-bunger at the end of it, lighting the petrol and waiting for the explosion. All harmless fun, right?

It all came unstuck when we went back to one of the boy's house (no parents at home) and laid a trail of petrol around the house.

One of the boys set fire to the trail too early, and it caught up to the boy holding the petrol can on the other side of the house and out of sight. He panicked, threw the can when it ignited and it landed on the side of the house.

Flames roaring up the paintwork on the wall in seconds.

Instant panic amongst 5 or 6 kids...

We grabbed the waterhose and eventually put out the fire, but it was a VERY close call; lots of burn marks on the weatherboard wall. Some kids were crying and shaking with fear.

So how do you combat that factor?

Yeah. Boys wil be boys. We did similar.

I guess it is whether they were doing as you say and our in our case, being stupid like: camping overnight, or wondering what happens to a bullet hit with a hammer, or trying to light fires for the purpose of seeing it grow.

Mostly firebugs are adults with issues i understand. And to the credt of the Poice and Media, since Black Saturday they hype the bad days less and watch the suspected bugs. They were 70 on watch in VIC on the last few weeks.

Peter

 

[geoffw]

Despite all the bad conditions, bushfires and fire scares, I still see motorists throwing cigarette butts out their windows.

 

[lizzie]

Despite all the bad conditions, bushfires and fire scares, I still see motorists throwing cigarette butts out their windows.

Unthinkly - perhaps they need some advertising specifically targeting that issue

 

[skater]

Despite all the bad conditions, bushfires and fire scares, I still see motorists throwing cigarette butts out their windows.

Saw one of them on Friday in the awful heat.

 

[BayView]

Despite all the bad conditions, bushfires and fire scares, I still see motorists throwing cigarette butts out their windows.

One of my mates made a hobby out of reporting ciggy litterers from cars to the EPA.

He was so prolific, the EPA gave him his own personalised report forms.

Had a great laugh at that.

My wife and I have pinged a few dozen in our time; great fun.

 

[Peter 14.7]

One of my mates made a hobby out of reporting ciggy litterers from cars to the EPA.

He was so prolific, the EPA gave him his own personalised report forms.

Had a great laugh at that.

My wife and I have pinged a few dozen in our time; great fun.

How do you ping them. Video evidence?

Peter

 

[BayView]

Unthinkly - perhaps they need some advertising specifically targeting that issue

What; like the TAC drink/driving ads, like the speeding ads, like the driver on drug ads, like the QUIT ads - see teenagers smoking everywhere....

yep; those ads really work.

Nup; just quadruple the fines and take away their cars for a decade.

 

[Peter 14.7]

What; like the TAC drink/driving ads, like the speeding ads, like the driver on drug ads, like the QUIT ads - see teenagers smoking everywhere....

yep; those ads really work.

Nup; just quadruple the fines and take away their cars for a decade.

Yes, it is ironic. All my staff (younger) smoke, why? I don't know but they all just throw buts down in the City?!?!?

It appears we do have to simply fine these people, yet these are the same people who vote Green and save save the whales, don't pollute etc..

As someone who grew up a country boy you never did that.

Maybe we need to go Singapore and cane some of them like this...

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel...swearaccused-in-singapore-20130123-2d5vi.html

Peter 14.7

 

[topcropper]

Looks like an extended cool and wet period coming up for the east coast of Australia. That will be nice for a change. Some big rainfalls and possible flooding maybe?

Easterly and southerly winds, and should push inland a fair bit.

Coonabarabran got up to an inch in storms yesterday, so that should help finish the fire off out there.


My summer crops look OK so far, but a good dump on them in the next week or so and it could be a big crop.



See ya's.

 

[sanj]

What; like the TAC drink/driving ads, like the speeding ads, like the driver on drug ads, like the QUIT ads - see teenagers smoking everywhere....

yep; those ads really work.

Nup; just quadruple the fines and take away their cars for a decade.

a lot of those ads do work (in conjunction with other methods of course), have you seen how low our smoking rates are now?

 

[Nemo30]

Looks like an extended cool and wet period coming up for the east coast of Australia. That will be nice for a change. Some big rainfalls and possible flooding maybe?

Easterly and southerly winds, and should push inland a fair bit.

Coonabarabran got up to an inch in storms yesterday, so that should help finish the fire off out there.


My summer crops look OK so far, but a good dump on them in the next week or so and it could be a big crop.



See ya's.

As long as it happens after Saturday.

We have a pretty big outdoor event happening Sat morning and would hate for it to rain.

 

[geoffw]

As long as it happens after Saturday.

We have a pretty big outdoor event happening Sat morning and would hate for it to rain.

Forecast for Canberra is not that great for you then.

 

[BayView]

How do you ping them. Video evidence?

Peter

You have to document the time, the location, the description of the car and driver, rego and colour, the direction travelling etc.

They can fight it in court, but apparently the penalty for losing the contest is not worth the fight, I'm told.

 

[BayView]

a lot of those ads do work (in conjunction with other methods of course), have you seen how low our smoking rates are now?

Well; goody. As someone who lost a 67 year old mother to smoking related lung cancer just over a year ago; I'm ecstatic.

Here's a bit of an example for ya's on how good those ads are working.

In the last week, I have had a 70th b'day to attend, and yesterday a visit from relos who have some o/seas visitors with them.

In that group were 2 x 22 year old English girls, a 17 year old boy and his 16 year old girlfriend....all 4 smoke.

Also in that group were 4 parents who smoke, and I'd bet my house the girlfriend's parents smoke as well, but they weren't there...just my hunch.

 

[sanj]

Well; goody. As someone who lost a 67 year old mother to smoking related lung cancer just over a year ago; I'm ecstatic.

Here's a bit of an example for ya's on how good those ads are working.

In the last week, I have had a 70th b'day to attend, and yesterday a visit from relos who have some o/seas visitors with them.

In that group were 2 x 22 year old English girls, a 17 year old boy and his 16 year old girlfriend....all 4 smoke.

Also in that group were 4 parents who smoke, and I'd bet my house the girlfriend's parents smoke as well, but they weren't there...just my hunch.

cool story bro but statistics > cherry picked examples

besides, im not sure how 4 english smokers can come into a discussion about effectiveness of australian anti smoking ads

 

[BayView]

cool story bro but statistics > cherry picked examples

besides, im not sure how 4 english smokers can come into a discussion about effectiveness of australian anti smoking ads

Two were English, the rest Aussies.

It's not cherry picked at all; 100% hit rate of adults under the age of 25 in one room.

That's just one example as I said; I could give you millions of examples - just spending one afternoon down at the Dromana/Rosebud/Rye piers at the moment, where hundreds of teenagers congregate during theses summer holidays to jump off the pier, socialise and generally hang out.

The % of those kids having a choof is mind boggling; given the ads, and widely available info around the world these days.

We'll just agree to disagree on those tv ads' success; if they were truly successful, no kids would be taking up the ridiculous habit, or drink/driving, and so on.

I say give up the ridiculous tv ads, and get out to the schools and educate them at an earlier age that way. I know it is done already to a small degree; but nowhere near enough.

 

[lizzie]

Looks like an extended cool and wet period coming up for the east coast of Australia. That will be nice for a change. Some big rainfalls and possible flooding maybe?

Sounds lovely - we are so dry. Haven't had decent rain for nearly 9 months ... asides from two days of good soaking drizzle in the last fortnight

 

[topcropper]

Sounds lovely - we are so dry. Haven't had decent rain for nearly 9 months ... asides from two days of good soaking drizzle in the last fortnight

I'm at the Gold Coast. It's as dry as I've ever seen it here. The grass was dead months ago and is slowly turning to dust.

We got a day of drizzle a few days ago. People were saying how good it was that it finally rained. There was only 2 mills in it, so it did nothing. I've had more rain at home on my farm than there's been here in the last few months.


See ya's.

 

[skater]

This time last year it rained on nearly every Thursday and Friday, making it near impossible for the kids I teach to do any training. I'm all for rain in Sydney BUT not on a Thursday or a Friday. Any other day is fine by me.