Birth would be too late with some. First trimester would be safer. It's all supply and demand.
Expensive Private Schools
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Birth would be too late with some. First trimester would be safer. It's all supply and demand.
This is one of the key issues.
I did engineering as my undergrad course, and the guys who came out of the 'top' Canberra private schools did worse than us ratbags from over the border. Their exam technique in particular was poor, and while they talked up their private schools, their uni results were generally poorer than the public school guys.
I think attending a private school can make for a much 'nicer' school experience, but it doesn't help much in terms of actual outcomes.
Just saw this.
I'm Athiest so not being biased, but I find they're very much into respecting all beliefs, outwardly at least. In fact it appears to be something they promote (frequently publicly boasting multicultural acceptance and religious tolerance).
As for getting in, it all depends on the demand in which case a criteria kicks in.
Catholics first, old scholars, those high up the list, then those living in the area, and/or a combination of these, then everyone else IF there is room.
Catholic high schools in the cbd and in middle class areas generally have long waiting lists unlike some of the outer suburb schools.
I've know other non Catholic Christians to be knocked back too for those reasons so I'd say that would most likely be the reason your friends didn't get in.
Can easily afford private school but sent all my kids to public school...
They all doing pretty well with A and B and can measure up
against any private school kids in any subjects and they will get the score they need to study the course they want at Uni...
I think its a big waste of cash on expensive private school and keeping up with the Jones image
I went to public school and did ok .... my parents was tough on me...
public schools my kids go to now are better than when I went to school
the key isn't so much about the school..its about parenting, you make sure
they do ok and push them hard, anything they dont understand we nail it right there and make sure they do.
Public or Private mostly image what you and your kids put in will yield the result accordingly.
I know people sent their kids to expensive private school do far worse and
it comes down to the parents...let them watch TV during the week, have little
discipline on on their study thinking paying expensive money will take care of itself etc...
Most people surprise I sent my kids to public school as if its a bad thing to do
the result speak for itself...because keeping up with the Jones and the Image are not my game ... my game is the result not image
They all doing pretty well with A and B and can measure up
against any private school kids in any subjects and they will get the score they need to study the course they want at Uni...
I think its a big waste of cash on expensive private school and keeping up with the Jones image
I went to public school and did ok .... my parents was tough on me...
public schools my kids go to now are better than when I went to school
the key isn't so much about the school..its about parenting, you make sure
they do ok and push them hard, anything they dont understand we nail it right there and make sure they do.
Public or Private mostly image what you and your kids put in will yield the result accordingly.
I know people sent their kids to expensive private school do far worse and
it comes down to the parents...let them watch TV during the week, have little
discipline on on their study thinking paying expensive money will take care of itself etc...
Most people surprise I sent my kids to public school as if its a bad thing to do
the result speak for itself...because keeping up with the Jones and the Image are not my game ... my game is the result not image
This is the Anglican Schools Commission list of schools
http://www.perth.anglican.org/asc
For bang for buck we have found them great. Our kids are growing up with a wide range of walks of lives, cultures and diversity in thinking. They are afforable for just about everyone but don't expect scholarships or super small class sizes - they keep their costs down by not offering that. They do offer a service for families who would like to go there but don't think they can afford it.
One of the highlights for us has been the whole K-12 idea. I went to public primary and then private HSC and the change over to highschool was fraught with nerves and fear. The transition for our DS was a breeze - he had all the kids he'd gone to school with up to grade 6 and then another intake of kids from outside the school as Year 7 was an intake year. He was secure in his circle of friends and able to take on more kids into his life as they joined school.
For our youngest they have been supportive of her and her special needs. They were happy for her to repeat Kinder there after attending a specialist school Kinder last year and she goes there 4 days a week and then Telethon Speech and Hearing one day a week. Now THAT is expensive. One day at TSH is as expensive as 5 days at her school.
http://www.perth.anglican.org/asc
For bang for buck we have found them great. Our kids are growing up with a wide range of walks of lives, cultures and diversity in thinking. They are afforable for just about everyone but don't expect scholarships or super small class sizes - they keep their costs down by not offering that. They do offer a service for families who would like to go there but don't think they can afford it.
One of the highlights for us has been the whole K-12 idea. I went to public primary and then private HSC and the change over to highschool was fraught with nerves and fear. The transition for our DS was a breeze - he had all the kids he'd gone to school with up to grade 6 and then another intake of kids from outside the school as Year 7 was an intake year. He was secure in his circle of friends and able to take on more kids into his life as they joined school.
For our youngest they have been supportive of her and her special needs. They were happy for her to repeat Kinder there after attending a specialist school Kinder last year and she goes there 4 days a week and then Telethon Speech and Hearing one day a week. Now THAT is expensive. One day at TSH is as expensive as 5 days at her school.
I used to play a lot of rugby league as a teen. As we know, league is a bogan class sport. Then in year 12 I played schoolboy rugby. I was of only two public school lads. I can remember playing union and we scored a try out on the wing. Rather than the usual f*k*n great try, the winger chimed in with a clap and 'great continuity guys'. I was shocked and said, What the hell does that mean? He had to explain it to the poor public school lad.
The team's dads all owned car dealerships, restaurant franchises etc. I got a lift home and we dropped a team mate at his house. Confused. I asked which house was his that we parked out the front of. The guys said that it was the one house which was shaped around their pool. My house was 90 years old.
That's when I realised that in a public school I was missing out on some good career networking.
In my opinion, if you can find the right affordable private school, go for it.
The team's dads all owned car dealerships, restaurant franchises etc. I got a lift home and we dropped a team mate at his house. Confused. I asked which house was his that we parked out the front of. The guys said that it was the one house which was shaped around their pool. My house was 90 years old.
That's when I realised that in a public school I was missing out on some good career networking.
In my opinion, if you can find the right affordable private school, go for it.
Is that for high school? or Primary as well??
We were on the 'other side' of the road (boundary)! Principle was hesitating. Then wife mentioned that she was an 'Old student' and got into Sydney Girls from there. He gave us the application form
I think its a big waste of cash on expensive private school and keeping up with the Jones image
Have you read any of the other posts. Most here are not into the "keeping up with the Jones'" in any way, and we chose private for reasons that had in part to do with the quality of education, but mainly due to the inclusive atmosphere at the school of our choice, and the temperament of our oldest child. We have zero interest in the old school tie or the "what sort of car does daddy drive" thing.
I went to public school and did ok .... my parents was tough on me...
public schools my kids go to now are better than when I went to school
the key isn't so much about the school..its about parenting, you make sure
they do ok and push them hard, anything they dont understand we nail it right there and make sure they do.
Public or Private mostly image what you and your kids put in will yield the result accordingly. You are wrong about the "mostly image" but I agree that a pupil will do well regardless of the school, and a bad kid will still do bad things in a private school, but at least the discipline at a private school has a bit more punch, and they can be expelled. A pupil expelled from a state school just goes to another state school.
I know people sent their kids to expensive private school do far worse and
it comes down to the parents...let them watch TV during the week, have little
discipline on on their study thinking paying expensive money will take care of itself etc...
Most people surprise I sent my kids to public school as if its a bad thing to do
the result speak for itself...because keeping up with the Jones and the Image are not my game ... my game is the result not image
I don't think you've read what most of us have had to say at all.
I agree!
Isn't there a website you can look up the schools stats? I haven't turned out that bad (i dont think?) and my parents spent a hell of alot of money on private schooling for me! I struggled as it was at a Catholic school and was basically the 'odd' one out and was kind of giggled at because I didn't know what to do when it came time to do 'catholic' things in school church gatherings!
I remember looking up a website prior to sending my children to a public school for primary education just to overlook and since that day my son has made his own decision to move on to a private school in high school (even though i think it boiled down to sports)
At the end of the day I truly believe it is who your child 'hangs around' whether their true potential comes out of them! That's my 2 cents worth anyway...
''The Catholic school we sent our daughter to was quite over the top. Religion was a big part of the curriculum, and an advanced knowledge was required. Our daughter struggled. The Anglican school had religion as a part of its curriculum, but it was low key, and many non Christian girls attended.
Isn't there a website you can look up the schools stats? I haven't turned out that bad (i dont think?) and my parents spent a hell of alot of money on private schooling for me! I struggled as it was at a Catholic school and was basically the 'odd' one out and was kind of giggled at because I didn't know what to do when it came time to do 'catholic' things in school church gatherings!
I remember looking up a website prior to sending my children to a public school for primary education just to overlook and since that day my son has made his own decision to move on to a private school in high school (even though i think it boiled down to sports)
At the end of the day I truly believe it is who your child 'hangs around' whether their true potential comes out of them! That's my 2 cents worth anyway...
''The Catholic school we sent our daughter to was quite over the top. Religion was a big part of the curriculum, and an advanced knowledge was required. Our daughter struggled. The Anglican school had religion as a part of its curriculum, but it was low key, and many non Christian girls attended.
Scholarships for top NSW private schools are highly competitive. If your child succeeds in an exam which aims to select about 20 people out of 400 candidates, you are looking at a prize worth 35k a year for the six years of secondary schooling. These 400 candidates are 12 year old year six students.
There is now a coaching industry in NSW which targets primary school kids to sit for the exam which is the entrance exam for selective public high schools and top private schools. If your child wins such a scholarship you have hit the jackpot but then a child who has the intelligence to win such a scholarship at age 12 usually has the intelligence to succeed in anything.
Junior goes to a non-denomination Christian school ... where they learn about all religions (albeit not a large part of the curriculum).
There is also a campus of "special ed" kids that intermingle with all the others during breaks and some classes - so everyone understands about humanity and that some kids just have different care needs than others.
Kids at her school come from all walks of life - we are quite possibly the most well off of all her friends, even if I still do rock up to the school gate in gumboots and a dust covered 5yr old Corolla. Many scrimp to send their kids to this school because of the standards of education and moral expectations.
The high school alternatives in the area are very ordinary.
Nothing to do with keeping up with the Jones's - and I resent those harping on with that comment.
We were lucky and got in early - hubby wanted to send her to public until yr 7 but I put the foot down and placed her immediately at yr 4 (she'd also already had 5 schools in 4 years so didn't want her to have to "move" school again).
Lucky we did - there is now a waiting list of over 100 kids.
There is also a campus of "special ed" kids that intermingle with all the others during breaks and some classes - so everyone understands about humanity and that some kids just have different care needs than others.
Kids at her school come from all walks of life - we are quite possibly the most well off of all her friends, even if I still do rock up to the school gate in gumboots and a dust covered 5yr old Corolla. Many scrimp to send their kids to this school because of the standards of education and moral expectations.
The high school alternatives in the area are very ordinary.
Nothing to do with keeping up with the Jones's - and I resent those harping on with that comment.
We were lucky and got in early - hubby wanted to send her to public until yr 7 but I put the foot down and placed her immediately at yr 4 (she'd also already had 5 schools in 4 years so didn't want her to have to "move" school again).
Lucky we did - there is now a waiting list of over 100 kids.
An interesting range of comments so far.
So my 2 cents:
I agree with geoffw preschool is over the price of private school say $70/day equates to at least $14k for 40 weeks.
We are lucky with a good choice of both selective and non-selective ps as well as many private & independent schools. The private system however is not selective so the results can be mixed.
To date we have found that the public system is good but like anything has its shortcomings. The fees are cheap but all the add-ons sure don't come cheaply.
So my 2 cents:
I agree with geoffw preschool is over the price of private school say $70/day equates to at least $14k for 40 weeks.
We are lucky with a good choice of both selective and non-selective ps as well as many private & independent schools. The private system however is not selective so the results can be mixed.
To date we have found that the public system is good but like anything has its shortcomings. The fees are cheap but all the add-ons sure don't come cheaply.
We send our child to private pre-school. That is because:
1. She has already spent two years at the day-care. So this should give her something different.
2. We need to spend money on day-care anyway... so why not spend a little more to go to private?
However, comparing the cost is not straight forward because:
1. Private pre-school closes during school holidays.
2. Private pre-school finishes at 2:30pm
3. We need to pack lunch for them!
4. We can get 50% back from the day-care fees but not from the preschool fees
Jackpot!
WOW!
I just realised i have hit the jackpot, not once but twice
My eldest scored a full scholarship for 6 years at one of the most expensive boys school (where Alan Jones taught once)...i think this year's fee is 30K a year...
My second girl was offered 3 FULL scholarships : MLC, Meriden, PLC...we turned them all down and she is now in a small selective school....ouch! that hurts!
My last son ...i couldn't be bothered to try!
My humble opinion based on my own experience:
first and foremost: look at the child...his needs and his personality and interests...my girl would have succeeded whichever school she goes...she is that self motivated...my last one would flounder in a huge school...my first one loves the different activities the Corps, the Duke of Ed, the sports...happy as larry!
NOTE: Don't think you "WON" the scholarship; many times it is the school who wins
WOW!
I just realised i have hit the jackpot, not once but twice
My eldest scored a full scholarship for 6 years at one of the most expensive boys school (where Alan Jones taught once)...i think this year's fee is 30K a year...
My second girl was offered 3 FULL scholarships : MLC, Meriden, PLC...we turned them all down and she is now in a small selective school....ouch! that hurts!
My last son ...i couldn't be bothered to try!
My humble opinion based on my own experience:
first and foremost: look at the child...his needs and his personality and interests...my girl would have succeeded whichever school she goes...she is that self motivated...my last one would flounder in a huge school...my first one loves the different activities the Corps, the Duke of Ed, the sports...happy as larry!
NOTE: Don't think you "WON" the scholarship; many times it is the school who wins
I came from a public education background. My school went great, a lot of people scored in the 90's a few in the 99+, about 3 scored 100 over a 2 year period. Only 12 out of 300+ students in my year didn't go on to university.
My high school prior to that I don't think many people actually made it to university. It was a wee bit ghetto.
My ex-housemate was from a boarding school background. After our discussions, the conclusion was it wasn't so much about the education, if anything the life skills from a public school were probably stronger, however you made some significant contacts when your school mates were Kerry Packers kids for instance that benefit you in many many ways.
My high school prior to that I don't think many people actually made it to university. It was a wee bit ghetto.
My ex-housemate was from a boarding school background. After our discussions, the conclusion was it wasn't so much about the education, if anything the life skills from a public school were probably stronger, however you made some significant contacts when your school mates were Kerry Packers kids for instance that benefit you in many many ways.
I agree with this, as the saying goes 'it takes a village to raise a child'. I went to a private school and the main thing that has driven me since I left school 15 years ago is just being surrounded by successful people, whether that's my immediate friends or wider friends on Facebook or old friends that I just see occasionally at reunions or around town.
They are all doing extremely well in their working life with most having high paid managerial roles, whether this is typical of most private schools or just mine i have no idea but some of the comments some people have been making about private school students being 'spoon fed' and really struggling at university are ridiculous and I certainly haven't seen a trend of this with my school group, quite the opposite.
Agree. Children set their personal standards, aspirations and mindset by those they surrounded themselves with - includes teachers, friends, friends parents, sports coaches, mentors, etc., not just parents.
If those people are positive and encourage the setting of high standards then wanting to succeed and believing it's possible often becomes the norm.
If the role models are low achievers, 'victims', or those who suffer from tall poppy syndrome then the child often thinks and achieves accordingly.
There might at times be some network advantage in associating yourself with highly successful people but overall success stems from ALL of these factors, imo.
