Obama's speech

Thorpey said:
Osama Bin Laden
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I lived next door to the bin Laden clan in Sana'a for a couple of years. They were nice quiet folk. A brother, a few sisters and the kids apparently, mostly mobile black sheets - hard to tell. Certainly didn't bother me. We had the CIA living on the other side of us, monitoring everything, so there wasn't exactly any street parties.

BTW - his name isn't Osama. It's Usama....but the yank spin doctors didn't like their # 1 enemy having a name starting with letters identical to their country, so they ordered the reporting of it in the media to be permanently changed...or so I was told. Who knows really.
 
Blue Card! said:
does it bug anyone else that the traditional labor colour (red) is also the same colour associated with communism..?
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Yup, that and the terms 'comrade' and 'working class' that the Labor people throw around. Not Rudd so much but his cronies. The pollies now in place are so far removed from their 'roots' as they swan around the world in Business class, wear Armani and have chauffeurs etc. I am not saying they shouldn't travel this way, but let's just be honest about the pretence that they represent 'the working class'.
 
Dazz said:
BTW - his name isn't Osama. It's Usama....but the yank spin doctors didn't like their # 1 enemy having a name starting with letters identical to their country, so they ordered the reporting of it in the media to be permanently changed...or so I was told. Who knows really.
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Wow, and :D to USAma!
 
Dazz said:
I lived next door to the bin Laden clan in Sana'a for a couple of years. They were nice quiet folk. A brother, a few sisters and the kids apparently, mostly mobile black sheets - hard to tell. Certainly didn't bother me. We had the CIA living on the other side of us, monitoring everything, so there wasn't exactly any street parties.

BTW - his name isn't Osama. It's Usama....but the yank spin doctors didn't like their # 1 enemy having a name starting with letters identical to their country, so they ordered the reporting of it in the media to be permanently changed...or so I was told. Who knows really.
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Both spellings are fine by the way. There is no direct translation as such. The man himself supposedly prefers Usama. Maybe he'll log in and let us know.;)
 
Pushka said:
Wow, and :D to USAma!
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What's so funny about that? It's true - that's his real name. Well, that's how it is actually spelt. All kinds of crazy stuff going on with the Bin Ladens and U.S. connections. Do a search on The Carlyle Group. Bush family and Bin Laden family direct connections going on right there - right to this day.

The standard line is that the Bin Ladens have disconnected themselves from Usama, but evdence shows that some of his brothers attended Usama's wedding in 2004. Food for thought.

Mark
 
GoAnna! said:
Both spellings are fine by the way. There is no direct translation as such. The man himself supposedly prefers Usama. Maybe he'll log in and let us know.;)
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My theory; he is long dead, or captured and kept a secret prisoner.

The yanks are simply using his name to prolong and justify any present and future plans to use the army for more oil country invasions/acquisitions.

Pump out the odd "sighting" and audio tape now and then to keep the sheeple scared and supporting the army to keep them safe. :eek:

The CIA are monitoring this post. ;)
 
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BayView said:
I can't see how he's ANTI male.

Yes, he wants to further the cause of the girls and make it more equal.
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When childcare and household work are shared equally

When work that is more "nuturing" is paid the same as other fields (think childcare versus sales)

When the father is as likely to take a day off work for a sick child as the mother

When workplaces focus more on outcome than time spent at the desk.

When families are as likely to move to follow the women's career as the man's

When women are not locked out of some traditionally men's work.

When promotions are based on ability rather than a clone of management or who drinks with manangement down at the pub

When single parents are as likely to be men as women.

When men are as likely to take paternity leave for long periods of time

Then we will be closer to wage equality.

Most couples on here know that upon arrival of the first child a quick glance at the two salaries make the women stepping out of the workforce a necessity whether either prefer that choice. Breastfeeding usually cements the deal.

Although wage disparity does exist I think that often its just the logical outcome of the above points. Whether those things are good or not is a personal view.
 
Does anyone have any idea what his policies are?

Just like Mr Sheen, he is pandering to the masses by telling them about all the free stuff he is going to give them, but he has never elaborated where the money is going to come from. He has never elaborated anything actually.

If you look through his statements, it is clear to me he is just another feel good leftie with little understanding of how the private sector generates wealth.

His policies are all high spending public sector initiatives. And yet he wants to reduce public debt. He is taking on a country with really serious financial problems, and I haven't heard him say anything yet that shows an understanding of how to guide the USA out of this.

I doubt he will be a good economic manager because he has no experience working in the private sector. Rather, his background is like most socialist politicians who don't understand wealth generation in free markets....in the public sector as a lawyer and university lecturer. His one brief dallying in a private law firm was in the field of civil rights.

Obama is a bigger economic naive than Australian Labor.
It will be interesting to see some specifics in what he intends to do in office. At the moment, it is all puffery and feel goods and broad brush strokes, with no budget accountability.

I see him bumbling through making big dreamy promises to all and sundry, but especially the poor......but when it comes to execution, he'll be as ineffective and clutzy as Mr Sheen, with his small minded unworkable stunts, like putting a computer on every senior student's desk and a muddle minded carbon emissions reduction target.

But there you go.....The USA is a democracy and a lot of people are hurting....and they dream the easy dream, the something for nothing dream.
 
I wonder if our election speeches make the news in the U.S.

I doubt it.

I think their news and views get too much publicity over here.

Just my thoughts.

Regards
Marty
 
Although Obama is an infinitely superior and competent candidate than the pathetic and miserable McCain, I fear combinations of ignorance, racism, fraud and a corrupt right wing mainstream media full of misinformation could incredibly actually give McCain a victory he doesn't deserve.
 
joeExpat said:
Although Obama is an infinitely superior and competent candidate.
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which Obama policies do you make that judgement on?
if you are unfamiliar with his policies, have a look here, and see if you can work out how he will simultaneously improve the material standard of living and public services for all Americans while increasing union power, reducing taxes for American 'workers', simultaneously fight for fair trade AND re-engineer NAFTA to benefit AMerican workers, save the Amercian economy based mainly on the green technologies and public infrastructure spending....

I am yet to see an Obama Budget where all his promises are reconciled. An undeceptive US left wing media would be more concerned about that than the rosey rhetoric.

Though I suppose no one wants to burst the feel good bubble quite yet.


thrashoholic said:
Winston,
We actually agree on a political issue. Who would have thought!

Mark
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You are a closet economic rationalist Mark....not that there's anything wrong with that....;)

BTW, I admit Obama is articulate and highly motivational....but you don't have to scratch too deep to find the motivation is the thin veneer of an ideologue without an audited financial plan. Seems he's modelled himself on the same blueprint as ANthony Robbins....and I would hazard a guess, that the US electorate, once they get over the Obama weekend workshop feelgoods, will realize the only thing that is going to bring positive change is individual self motivated action and financial responsibility, not the hype of some far away smooth talker who's promised to deliver $10^(1+n) worth of benefit for every $10 spent.
 
WinstonWolfe said:
which Obama policies do you make that judgement on?



BTW, I admit Obama is articulate and highly motivational....but you don't have to scratch too deep to find the motivation is the thin veneer of an ideologue without an audited financial plan. Seems he's modelled himself on the same blueprint as ANthony Robbins...
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Maybe it will be the same as in this country this time last year they all make promises that can never be realistically met,i have read about several of Obama's proposals,everything sounds good when your on the soap box and the tide is running with you,but with the way the US dollar is and another 500 billion from the subprime mess still to surface over the next 2 years he may well run them over the investment cliff, i care more about the 10-15 young ladies and men that are killed everyday in middle-east
fighting for their flag,l hope he will fix that problem first,the rest in time will fix itself..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-dxeeWap4
..imho..
willair..
 
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joeexpat said:
although Obama Is An Infinitely Superior And Competent Candidate Than The Pathetic And Miserable Mccain, I Fear Combinations Of Ignorance, Racism, Fraud And A Corrupt Right Wing Mainstream Media Full Of Misinformation Could Incredibly Actually Give Mccain A Victory He Doesn't Deserve.
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welcome to America!!
 
willair said:
l hope he will fix that problem first,the rest in time will fix itself..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt-dxeeWap4
..imho..
willair..
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and I would be happy to see the USA withdraw troops from all over the world too.......just as they should not have fought to save Europe from Hitler.

Let the rest of the world learn to fight their own battles and survival of the strongest prevail. And let no Australian ever outsource the defence of its borders again.
 
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