Understand the math ~ Diet vs Exercise
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Kathryn, I think their 'normal everyday stuff' is very different to our 'normal every day stuff'.
Agreed...they seem to walk more (that is what I was referring to)
They also agreed that the earlier diet of the old people, is very much different to the younger generation.
There's enough nuts, fruits and vegetables already at work, why take more?
I wonder if the cooler weather plays a part also, perishables last longer in the fridge
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Actually, "research" into longevity indicates that people in warmer climates ("The Blue Zones") live longer that those in cooler climates.I wonder if the cooler weather plays a part also, perishables last longer in the fridge
http://www.bluezones.com/2014/03/blue-zones-history/
* I'm not sure how rigorous or scientific the "research" is. The whole web site reads like a marketing stunt to sell books and other materials.
I wonder if the cooler weather plays a part also, perishables last longer in the fridge
It gets very hot in Italy, even up north. They have a rhythm to their life that we don't have here. They are industrious and don't sit down much.
Longer telomere length is a predictor of a longer life. Is it human growth hormone that keeps your telomeres long?
I did some googling today...and they are taking DNA and tissue samples from old people.
They seem to have something that is protecting them from cancer and diabetes.
Adventists live longer because they do not smoke or drink alcohol, or consume coffee, tea, cola, they believe in abstinence for both men and women before marriage, and they all maintain a healthy, low-fat vegetarian diet that is rich in nuts and beans
I'm certain that even if they didn't live longer, it would certainly seem like it.
See ya's,
Using a single example to extrapolate out to the entire world is a bit spurious.
The oldest living person on record smoked and drank right up until she died. So using your analogy, suggestions that smoking and drinking are bad for you is BS!
The oldest living person on record smoked and drank right up until she died. So using your analogy, suggestions that smoking and drinking are bad for you is BS!
I think longevity is in the genes. Let's hope you have your grandma's genes.
My mother could have lived a longer, and had a better quality of life..if she had given up smoking.
Both of her parents were in their 90's when they died. (non-smokers)
Instead she got macular degeneration of the eyes, had a heart attack, mini strokes, dementia, and finally died earlier this year.
I think the only thing that got her to 84 yrs old, was the fact she actually ate pretty nutritious foods. Did mind exercises (lexicons, crosswords, watched game shows) and wasn't over weight by more than 5 kgs.
I never understand people.
My older brother was her care giver for the past 8 years...and he still smokes.
Sorry about your mum Kathryn. Yes, smoking is definitely not good. But, for whatever reason, there are some who manage to defy the odds--they live well into their 90s having smoked, drunk and eaten unhealthily. My girlfriend's mother is a perfect example. She's 94, still lives at home, has smoked all her life, doesn't eat well, but has never had high blood pressure and has no health issues. Go figure.
You are right of course...my mother's example just annoys me. She could have had 15 more quality years.
She knew better than this.
Her older sister is 86- never smoked, was always a bit overweight (not now)but never ate very much junk or restaurant food.
Her younger brother is 82....ex truckie, so smoked a lot, ate terrible...has had some health problems...but for the most part, still quite healthy.
I think you're onto something here Kathryn. We certainly don't want to be aping the ancestors that died at 30 but it's going to be interesting to see whether we can get as far as our grandparents have. Those lucky enough to get 3 meals a day never ate much more than that. Must've been doing something right.
My 2 bob bit: cars, takeaways and the biggest one, too long getting to work, being at work, getting home from work and thinking about work. Really old people often say they worked hard but it was a different kind of work.
The map of Centurians shows certain latitudes, doesn't it. Combined with seaside/island life. Plus, apart from California, not a history of prosperity.
BTW- if you know that you're addicted to something and know that someone telling you to pull your socks up doesn't work, then you know that you can't do it by yourself. It's still up to you though to take the next step. But don't keep trying to do it by yourself because you already know that doesn't work. To persist with what works for some but doesn't work for others is only going to drive you around the bend. In other words, Somersoft may inspire some to get fit and lose weight and others... nuh - could just make you want to eat more. So stop going to the butcher for bread.
Rob and I like to occasionally stop at random cemeteries, and the view the old headstones especially.
Really, if you can get past the first 5 years, after birth, there were a LOT of old people.
Considering they didn't have antibiotics, that is quite a feat.
As you say, it probably had a lot to do with their lifestyle.
Solitude, so when someone was sick...you just didn't catch what they had.
Fruit and vegetables..with a bit of fish/meat.
Most of their jobs, where at home..usually on the farm.
As you say, they didn't have the travel/ commute to work.
On that note, I am the first generation in my family to actually work at a desk all day. My parents, and their parents, and so on were all "blue collar" workers.
I imagine its the same for a lot of people. Unless your family line were all aristocrats or clerks, you're likely to be among the first few generations to sit on your *** at work for 10 hours a day.
I imagine its the same for a lot of people. Unless your family line were all aristocrats or clerks, you're likely to be among the first few generations to sit on your *** at work for 10 hours a day.
I believe this is going to be a really bad thing for our generation and for gererations that follow us. That is why I cycle to work and home as much as I can, as well as being active in other ways, like walking to the shops, going for a walk after dinner or jogging around my local park. Recent research in this area is very alarming:
Start Moving! Sitting Can Reduce Your Life Expectancy
http://mashable.com/2012/07/10/sitting-can-reduce-your-life-expectancy/
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